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Fancy pedal thingys(12 posts)

Fancy pedal thingysTurtle Boy
Mar 9, 2003 1:31 PM
I don't want to start any kind of religious discussion ... but would like some basic input and commments on going to clip-less pedals. I've got my first road bike since college (a million years ago) its a Lemond Tourmalet - I'm definetly a casual fair weather rider. Will commute to work in spring - summer, start working my way up to 30 - 50mi rides, maybe ... maybe do a century in the fall. I'm also about 6-2 and 200lbs if that matters -- size 12 narrow feet.

So that being the case - there appear to be 2 choices in the pedals: Shimano SPD, or Look. I want good comfort, reliable operation (not a maintenance hassle), without breaking the bank. Many thanks in advance.

You've got options...Akirasho
Mar 9, 2003 2:03 PM
First... clipless is the way to go.

You've got several choices these days (most are fundamentally incompatible sharing perhaps, only a drilling mount hole pattern) including LOOK and SPD (there are several different type of Shimano system). Since you mentioned commute, you might consider a double sided road or MTB type with a lugged sole shoe with recessed cleat (easier to walk in... although many folks will commute in regular road cleat/pedal/shoes). In that respect (if you can still find 'em) the old Shimano 747's are great... and some single sided SPD road clones will also work with lugged soled (MTB) shoes (I use some old Trek Icon single sided on a couple of bikes... with Sidi D2 shoes).

I've never tried 'em, but Speedplay is also very popular (I'm sure someone will recommend).

If you do go with a more traditional road type (LOOK, Time), you should invest in cleat covers as well (makes walking a little less hazardous... though virtually any system will make climbing steps a risky proposition).

... they made bikes a million years ago???

Be the bike.
Commuting can be different than ridingKerry
Mar 9, 2003 6:55 PM
Depending on your commute distance, traffic, terrain, etc. you may want something you can more readily "dab" with - put your foot down in all kinds of circumstances. Doing this with normal road cleats may mean a slippery contact point and rapid cleat wear. In this case, something like an SPD "touring" shoe might be the best bet. A number of people commute with just platform pedals (no toe clips, no cleats on the shoes). This is a poor choice for riding distances of 30-50 miles, where a conventional bike shoe is best - the stiff sole prevents hot spots and is better at transfer of power. More details about your commute would be helpful in making a pedal recommendation.
Commuting can be different than ridingTurtle Boy
Mar 9, 2003 7:21 PM
Pretty much an urban commute with plenty of stop lights. About 8 miles on the way to work as I also take some light rail as well. On the way home I ride the entire 16 miles - again very urban. Sounds like you're reccomending recessed cleats ---- right now I'm using my Shimano SPD mountain biking shoes in the clips I got with the Lemond - so at least I can work on pedaling in a full cycle. Guess I 'll have to go and look at some on the road bike shoes and cleats to understand your concerns
re: Fancy pedal thingysThe Walrus
Mar 9, 2003 7:35 PM
Consider the Shimano PD-M323/324 pedals; they have a binding on one side for MTB cleats--which means you'll be able to wear walkable shoes--and a plain platform on the other side. You get the efficiency and power of clipless pedals, plus the ability to click out and ride on the platform side in traffic so you can bail out if that becomes necessary. You can also pedal with "normal" shoes when that is required.
Eggbeaters would be great optionStupidLight
Mar 10, 2003 8:53 AM
I use Crank Bros. Eggbeater pedals on my road ride and MTB and am really happy with them.

Eggbeaters have several things going for them:
1) decent, adjustable floatation (you have two choices depending on how you set the cleat)
2) they're light, yet reliable -- 290g for the all-steel version, with no Ti-axles or magnesium bodies to worry about (at 200lbs, I'd stick with steel).
3) they're _cheap_! You can currently get them for around $50 on Ebay.
4) they will work with your current SPD mountain shoes, _and_ they have a road cleat available if you want to get a set of road-specific shoes for the non-commuter rides.

Caveat: I use the Eggbeaters with a stiff-soled MTB race shoe, which protects me against the "hot spot" phenomenon on longer road rides. In comparison to road-specific systems like Look, Time, etc. the Eggbeaters have a relatively short (fore-aft) but wide pedal interface area (the squared-off portions of the pedal body support the lugs of your MTB shoe, or the pontoons of the road cleat). Although I have yet to experience any discomfort from this even after 4+ hours in the saddle, you might experience pressure points if attempting, say, to ride a century in softer touring/mtb shoes. For this sort of thing, I'd recommend carbon-soled road or MTB race shoes.

Good luck!
Eggbeaters would be great optionmapei boy
Mar 10, 2003 10:55 AM
The problem with eggies for a commuter bike is the difficulty in riding your bike with Normal Folks shoes. Whenever I ride my egged MTB in my Teva's, most of my brain is concentrating on trying to keep my feet from rolling off the things. Actual serious pedaling with eggs and civilian shoes is well nigh impossible.
Eggbeaters & shoe compatibilityStupidLight
Mar 10, 2003 6:52 PM
If you are the type of commuter who finds yourself dashing off to lunch in your leather-soled loafers, Eggbeaters are not for you.

Personally, I don't have a problem staying on the Eggbeaters with normal street shoes with soft soles, but then again I'm not sprinting for primes either.

For any shoe, any time compatibility, those dual-sided shimanos mentioned in the earlier post are definitely your best choice.

I also agree with the poster below that toeclips are the _last thing_ on earth I'd ever do to myself -- inferior and dangerous technology that deserves its place in the wastebin of history.
Have tried Looks, Eggbeaters, and toe clips for commuting.dzrider
Mar 10, 2003 10:57 AM
I like toe clips and straps the best. If I go out for lunch or work related errands they allow me to go in regular work shoes. On the way home, I tighten the straps and ride hard. I no longer have cycling shoes with slotted cleats for these pedals, but you could probably find some and that would, I think, be the ultimate for a longer commute.

I like EggBeaters the least for commuting because they work poorly with civilian shoes. I like them a little more than the Looks for long rides and have them on my best bike.
Have tried Looks, Eggbeaters, and toe clips for commuting.laffeaux
Mar 10, 2003 4:55 PM
Hmmm... I know pedals are an individual choice, but the last things I'd ever use on any bike was toe clips. I used them for years, and looking back, I don't see how I did it.

To me they are the most difficult pedal to enter. For commuting where I often stop at red lights, the hassle of finding the basket is way more difficult than a clipless pedal.

Also exiting from a toe clip is the same difficulty (or harder) as a clipless pedal. No advantage there.

If I use street shoes, I'll use flat pedals with no cages, or just ride on my clipless pedals (only for short distances).

My $0.02
re: Fancy pedal thingysPhatMatt
Mar 10, 2003 6:59 PM
I have campy and love them. You mentioned teh Mtn shoes. If you ride clipless on teh MTB and do not want to have 2 sets of shoes get the same ones that are on your MTB.

Ride Safe
re: Fancy pedal thingys--- Thanks for the help !!Turtle Boy
Mar 10, 2003 9:48 PM
Lots of great comments - looks like is try the Shimano PD-M323/324 pedals so I can use my MTB shoes or street shoes. Plus as many said using these shoes are better for stop'n'go commuting. Sigh .... guess I'll have to not have those sexy Look pedals and slick road shoes ... and look funny walking ...etc