|Litespeed Classic v. LeMond Victoire 02||Welshboy|
Mar 9, 2003 11:33 AM
|Hello fellow cyclists from the wet and soggy United Kingdom.
I'm thinking about a new Sunday best bike for the summer. In particular, this year I plan to do a few century rides and also do Lands End to John O'Groats (approx. 900 miles in 9 days).
I was going to go for a custom steel frame but have suddenly realised that Ti has a lot to offer so I'd love to hear your views on these two titanium beauties. Thanks.
|re: Litespeed Classic v. LeMond Victoire 02||sprockets2|
Mar 10, 2003 2:54 PM
|I have the Classic and I think it is very nice indeed. I bought it sight unseen, so I was unprepared for the one caveat that I must offer for the bike: the top tube is NOT short. FWIW, I think that many Lemond designs tend to have a long TT as well, so there may be no means of discrimination there.
Mine is in what may be their biggest frame size, and even given that, the bike is decently stiff in the BB. Smaller sizes should be amply stiff. I was told that most Ti bikes are not very stiff in the BB and the Classic is one of the few that has decent stiffness.
The ride and handling of the Classic are very good, and I have not had it at its handling limits due to my lack of skill, not the bike. It is the best handling bike that I have ridden, which may not be saying much as I don't ride many race bikes, but as for bikes for the rest of us, the Classic is great. The ride is surprisingly good. Very surprising. Get it with a firm and lively fork, the standard one I got is a touch on the dead side for my taste.
I don't know the Lemond, but I do know that Litespeed has Ti bike production dialed in. I am very impressed with the machine, and I only wish that they made a Ti fork to perfectly complement the rest of this great cycle.
|you completely lost me...||Fez|
Mar 10, 2003 3:19 PM
and I only wish that they made a Ti fork to perfectly complement the rest of this great cycle.
|re: Litespeed Classic v. LeMond Victoire 02||carver|
Mar 10, 2003 3:40 PM
|I can't speak to the Lemond. I do have a 59cm Classic w/dura ace. Sweet smooth buttery ride, yet stiff enough for some serious climbing. We do a lot of very fast descents and it handles extremely well. For this 180 pounder, it was the perfect choice.|
|What about the '03 Lemond?||laffeaux|
Mar 10, 2003 5:02 PM
|Have you seen the '03 Lemond Victoire? They've switched to butted TI (not sure how it will effect the ride), and it can be ordered with varied paint schemes. After playing around with their Project One color picker on Lemond's web site, I was sold on the bike based on the colors alone!
I've test ridden the '02 Lemond and thought it was a nice bike - not enough time on it to recommend it or not.
|Having owned the Classic for 7 years now||Lazywriter|
Mar 10, 2003 6:29 PM
|I can say that it is and will always be my favorite ride. I have owned Trek, Scapin, Bottechia and currenly have a Fuji and Fondriest as well as a new Vortex (2002). The Classic is my favoritie ride. The Vortex is awesome, but the Classic rides soooooooooo smooth. Like I said before, I test rode a Seven Axiom extensivley prior to buying my Vortex and it rode almost identical to my Classic.
Having put many many miles on the CLassic over the past years, as soon as I got on the 7 I felt a very familiar feel. It couldn't justify buying the 7 because of this similarity. I went with the Vortex as it rode very differently. However, if I had to keep one, it would be the Classic. That should tell you something. If you can find a 2002 Classic go for it. I love the white paint patches with the decals on top. I have a highly polished one that has held up great all of this time. The newer brushed finish is even easier to keep. Test ride one and you will understand.
|The Victoire has always had butted tubes....||johnrg|
Mar 10, 2003 10:17 PM
|In 2003 Lemond is offering a new model without butted tubes. I've been riding a Victoire for a couple of years. I had an early frame replaced due to a crack. Second one which I just got back from Trek I thought also had cracked but turned out it was not. Anyway the Victoire is a great riding bike and has a great warranty. I've been told by someone who's ridden both that they "prefer" the Lemond. I think they both are very similar in design and spec. I might see how the quality of the framesets compare. Buy which one looks best to you or seems the best value. I don't think you could go wrong with either.|
|Agree with Lazy..||ol|
Mar 10, 2003 8:20 PM
|I use to have a Litespeed Classic back in the early 90s, I raced the bike extensively for 5 years in Australia , I did crits in the summer long road races in the winter & I can honestly say that the bike never let me down. The new classic are also much stiffer than what I used to have, so if you do decide to get the Classic you will not be dissapointed. My current ride is a Merlin & I love that bike.
Cheers from sunny downunder.