RoadBikeReview.com's Forum Archives - General


Archive Home >> General(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 )


Finally Here! Images from the Downers Grove Crit(46 posts)

Finally Here! Images from the Downers Grove CritKristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:26 AM
These are just a little late, but I finally got my film scanner and got these all uploaded yesterday. They aren't the best--shooting bike races is HARD! But I hope you enjoy them. I won't bother to post them in order or call the race...we already know how it turned out.

This is a shot of the pro-mens peleton climbing suicide hill up the back side of the course. Its the best place to shoot if you have no press credentials. I learned quickly to watch for signs of an impending attack and be ready to scramble out of the way. These guys will ride over anything.
Nice pic Kristin. Any more? PS-glad you decided to stay =) nmlook271
Mar 7, 2003 9:30 AM
re: Finally Here! Images from the Downers Grove Critohmk1
Mar 7, 2003 9:34 AM
cool shot! just a question: is the image flopped?
Yeah,I noticed the Saturn on the jersey is backwards....PEDDLEFOOT
Mar 7, 2003 9:41 AM
...but it's a great pic nonetheless.Thanks for posting it.Glad to see you're still around :-)
It's intentional like, ecnalubmajs5280
Mar 7, 2003 10:02 AM
It's so when that SUV driver puts down their latte and cell phone and looks in the rear view mirror ;-)

GREAT pics Kristin! You have a great eye, hope you share more in the future.
Its my stunning attention to detailKristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:55 AM
This is the first roll of slides I scanned and I was so focused on color and sharpness that I failed to notice that I'd loaded all the slides backwards. Its easy to fix in photoshop, but they're all up now. No biggie, they are just racing the course backwards.
The mean green machine dominatesKristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:40 AM
The field stuck together for most of the race. But the record breaking $1500 crowd prim(sp?) broke the field and some bikes. The prim lap sprint caused a major crash.
you can tell that's no Cat 4 race nmDougSloan
Mar 7, 2003 11:54 AM
Leading the lapKristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:44 AM
The quality on this isn't great, but I still liked it. I'm going to reshoot this idea next year and try to improve the idea I had for it.
Leading the lap4bykn
Mar 7, 2003 2:56 PM
I really hate it when non-handicaps use the handicap parking spaces. ;)
BreatheKristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:45 AM
Changed it a little...this one is better.Kristin
Mar 7, 2003 10:10 AM
I wasn't happy so I decided to tweak this more.
How do they do this?Kristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:47 AM
I don't understand cornering at high speeds...scary.
AnotherKristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:49 AM
example of perfect position. nmBruno S
Mar 7, 2003 6:56 PM
That's my bike! Sweet.up_hiller
Mar 8, 2003 4:56 PM
'cept the fork is different, but what the hey?

Rode my first century today. It was fun, but I am bushed. Was nodding off at the keyboard a little while ago.

Thanks for the pics Kristin.
This one needs a captionKristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:50 AM
Of all the times to get a phone call!!! (nm)PEDDLEFOOT
Mar 7, 2003 9:59 AM
Dropped - damn mechanics installed our drivetrains backwards! nmnoveread
Mar 7, 2003 10:35 AM
LOL nmJS Haiku Shop
Mar 10, 2003 11:12 AM
If you find an earring, it's mine. (nm)LactateIntolerant
Mar 7, 2003 12:08 PM
Dammit! Another bug in the ear! nmlook271
Mar 7, 2003 4:55 PM
A couple from the womens raceKristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:52 AM
Last oneKristin
Mar 7, 2003 9:53 AM
Its a bummer I didn't get this sharper. Best I could do in PS to clean it up.
Great shots, all of 'em. "Breath" is my favorite! nmnoveread
Mar 7, 2003 9:57 AM
ah! she uses Campy! nmweiwentg
Mar 7, 2003 11:06 AM
ah! she uses Campy! nmkoala
Mar 8, 2003 4:35 AM
And it looks like Chorus! I didnt think racers would use such a lowly group as mine!
I like it. Gives a sense of speed. (nm)look271
Mar 7, 2003 4:57 PM
Ooh, these are cool... (nm)PseuZQ
Mar 7, 2003 9:59 AM
Nice pics!!!... Thanks for posting. (nm)wasabekid
Mar 7, 2003 10:07 AM
I'm not gay, but I really liked the pics...Fez
Mar 7, 2003 10:14 AM
Thanks for posting. When was this?
You should get together with SpiritoKristin
Mar 7, 2003 10:15 AM
This was taken at last years US Open-Pro Championships in Downers Grove, IL.
What month is it held at?Fez
Mar 7, 2003 10:18 AM
And do they also have speedskate events? I remember in years past they also do a sprint where it is cyclist vs. speedskater.
August and yep. Link enclosedKristin
Mar 7, 2003 10:37 AM
http://www.sportsgrandprix.com/results/
Looks like they're riding a tandem!brider
Mar 7, 2003 10:21 AM
The alignment is soooo god on these guys, it could almost be seen like they're riding a tandem.

Cool pics. Thanks for posting.
backwards imagestremblay
Mar 7, 2003 10:52 AM
Kristin...

Nice photos. You have some excellent images there.

But you scanned the film in reverse! No problem, just flip them in photoshop.

Otherwise, good work. Which film scanner did you use? I'm in the market for a medium-high end film and slide scanner.

Just for kicks I did a very quick levels adjustment in photoshop, just to see if that first image would look better if it was brighter. I just kicked up the brightness a bit, brought out the mids, and voila, you have an excellent photo! I flipped it horizontally too.
ThanksKristin
Mar 7, 2003 11:24 AM
I just purchased a Minolta Dimage Elite with ICE. It scans only 35mm at up to 2820. This is perfect for my needs. The Elite is Minolta's mid-level scanner and they just released the Elite II with ICE3. That one sells for $700+, which knocked off the prices of the older Elite model. I picked mine up on EBay for $250. I love it. The only two people who seem to be selling these take only money orders. I held my breath for a few days hoping the item would arrive and it did. Oh, and I called Minolta to verify the warrenty (the guy I bought from had some neg feedback about warrenties) they told me they will honor it even if I bought it on EBay.

This guy has one right now...he is NOT the guy I dealt with:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3405041503&category=11207
You may want to wait and see if the other guy puts more back up. I only paid $235 with BuyItNow.

We already hashed out above that I had scanned them all in backwards. I just missed it while editing because I was going quickly. Also, I know what you were trying to accomplish with the adjustment, I made the same changes myself but then scrapped it because I think the highlights are burned too bright. I could fix that of course, but it takes more time than I had today. In this case, I still like the image I posted originally. Of course, its all a matter of preferance. Thanks for the input.
Thankstremblay
Mar 7, 2003 11:52 AM
I've heard good things about the Minolta scanners. They've been near the top of my shopping list. I just need to do some more research on them.

As for the highlights being a bit too hot, yeah, they are a touch blown out, but such is the nature of the beast. It would take some burning in photoshop to fix this up. I think I prefer a bit of overexposure to underexposure in this case.

All in all, I like the images. Keep it up.
Almost forgot how nice the weather was herelast year(nm)PEDDLEFOOT
Mar 7, 2003 11:15 AM
Kristin I need to know what equip you are using!pnitefly
Mar 7, 2003 11:35 AM
The images are BEAUTIFUL! What camera and film combos are you using? The world needs beautiful pictures...help me contribute!
Its amazing what you can do with garbageKristin
Mar 7, 2003 1:10 PM
Okay, its not pure garbage, but its not great equipment, and I will not recommend it to you. Learn from my mistakes.

Body: Canon Elan IIe (purchased used this summer)
Lens: Taron 100-300 Macro Zoom (the last part is an oxymoron)

Digital or 35mm?

The Elan II is nice, but I held an Elan 7 this week and now I think my camera is very overweight, noisy and slow. And it is compared to the Elan 7. If you want to get into 35 mm photography, hmmmm...this is tricky. See the digital market is changing everything. Canon does have the best Digital SLR's on the market and they plan to make them fully compatable with all Canon AF lens mounts--this is a good thing. But right now the cheapest full feature DSLR is $2500. Hmmm, so many thought runnning through my head at once:

1. If you don't know anything about 35mm film, you may not want to invest just yet in high end photography. See, by the time you figure out how film works, it will be nearly obsolete and you will sell all your equipment and need to learn digital. Best guess, film will be a special order item within 10 years.

2. Then again, you can gain a lot of valuable knowledge by starting now with film and going digi later as you can afford it--it will get cheaper.

3. No matter what you do, I recommend Canon or Nikon for the serious ametuer. They lead the pro-market--especially in digital, which is important.

Lenses:

*You get what you pay for
*You can't spend too much on a lens
*All Canon AF & Nikon lens will fit on their DSLR bodies
*There are different build qualities for the same lense. A Canon L 50mm 1:1 will run you $2500. A mid level build of the same lens...slower, louder, and made in China will cost you about $350.
*Never spend less than $300 on a lens.
*Ultrasonic is good
*Image stabalizer is better

I bought my Tamron 100-300 used for $149 and smiled as I strolled out of the shop. But I throw away a lot of film because its too slow. And I lose a lot of candids/wildlife shots because its too loud. I'm not smiling anymore.

My recommendation: Spend as much as you can on ONE good 50mm lens. Learn to shoot with it for 2 years and save for your next lens in the mean time.

If you're not sure about any of this, and you don't want to spend much, then here's what you do to see if you've got the bug. Go to one of the following sites:

http://www.keh.com
http://bhphotovidio.com

Look on their used pages for a used canon that takes AF lenses. Then call KEH or BH and ask them for a solid starter lens to go with your camera. The reason I suggest this is you want to be buying lenses today that you will be able to use later when you go digi.
THESE ARE GREAT!!!!!bill
Mar 7, 2003 11:36 AM
Great shots Kristin!Turtleherder
Mar 7, 2003 11:39 AM
I have a suggestion for next year. I noticed some of the corner barriers were the metal grate variety with space between the bars. On those high speed corners set up on the inside of the corner just in front of the apex, move up as close as you can to the fence and then crouch down on one knee and get the camera at the same height as the racers handle bars. You get great shots of the lean into the corner and the flow of the riders into the corner. Shooting races is very hard because you just never seem to be able to capture the full power and color of the riders.
Best !!!Jowan
Mar 7, 2003 12:12 PM
Best shots I've seen in a long time!! Keep on posting.

Jowan
Nice, but where are the glossies of you???Sintesi
Mar 7, 2003 5:56 PM
Enquiring mind.
Great shots!!rollo tommassi
Mar 8, 2003 2:18 PM
Well worth the wait!
Maybe we meet this year?
I put "rollo tommassi" on my helmet, but no one's noticed it yet...