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Here is a neat article on indoor races.....(11 posts)

Here is a neat article on indoor races.....cydswipe
Mar 2, 2003 6:10 AM
The USA coach is a moron but it has good setup tipsSprint-Nick
Mar 2, 2003 10:02 AM
The article has some great roller setup/starting tips. But somehow leaves out learning up against a wall or in a doorjam. Then the coach they quote "I wouldn't recommend a casual cyclist buying rolleres (because they are too dangerous)" is a moron. The challenge alone when tackeled properly is not that dangerous and will make you a far better cyclist. The only reason I can see someone not buying them is because if you only ride recreationally you might not have the drive to use them often so its a waste of money.

To only do 2 miles in 5 1/2 mins the resistance must be a lot though!

reread the article NickSpoiler
Mar 2, 2003 11:47 AM
"2. Set up rollers in a narrow doorway. With hands on top of the handlebars, elbows should align with the door jamb. If you move too far, use an elbow to re-center the bike."
Missed that :)Sprint-Nick
Mar 2, 2003 11:57 AM
I tend to skim over stuff missing key points... then its just one of those days for me. I was mainly turned off by the coaches advice though.

The USA coach is a moron but it has good setup tipsEmu_Lane
Mar 2, 2003 1:20 PM
I have done a couple of these roller races and race with the guys in the article. The set up is the Krietler rollers with the killer headwind unit and a wieght on the back. For an idea of how hard the races are, John Lieswyn (7up rider) did two of these last year and rode one 6 minute and one 5:45. They definitely favor a bigger rider. I would like to see what kind of time Marty Nothstein could turn out. The guy that has done the 5:12 is about 200 lbs. There are some Cat 4s that can ride 5:30 and some good 2s that can't break 6 min.

They've been doing these for at least 10 years in Iowa and now have an 8 race series from Jan 11-Mar 1. Are there any other places that have any type of roller races? If you're just going to reply to rub it in that you're to busy enjoying warm temps and racing outside from Jan-Mar, and don't even have to train on rollers, save it. I've heard it all before.
Just so I don't get in trouble...Emu_Lane
Mar 2, 2003 1:26 PM
I don't think the coach in the article is a moron, I just forgot to change the topic line when I hit reply.
I think he made a bad quote & it sounds like a pursuiters raceSprint-Nick
Mar 2, 2003 5:44 PM
The coach in the article is probably a good guy and great coach but telling people not to buy rollers if they are a casual rider is not what he should have said. Rollers are good for any cyclist who wants to get better by training in the offseason.

As for who would win Marty would definitely do awesome. It essentially is a pursuit on rollers. Hence, it favours a track rider who has a high sustainable power output. So your right in saying the 7up rider would get beat by Marty. Producing power up a hill to a pursuit or sprint on the track is like comparing apples and oranges.

I know the coach -- He's no moronDale Brigham
Mar 2, 2003 8:10 PM
The coach cited as a "moron" is an Elite-level USA Cycling licensed coach who has done more for junior cyclists in Iowa than anyone I know. He organizes and coaches a junior team that has spawned several notable national-level cyclists over the past few years. I value Randy Catron as a fellow coach and friend. I have tremendous admiration for what he has accomplished in coaching.

Randy and I have coached together at USAC junior development camps, and attended several coaching clinics and certification courses together. He devotes his own time and money to the sport, which is the general case for coaches in the U.S. who work mainly with junior athletes. I just wanted to set the record straight on this coach.

By the way, I concur 100 percent with Randy when he stated, "I don't recommend that casual riders who have never ridden rollers before go out and buy them," and, "They can be tricky, and if they don't have a fairly smooth cadence to start, they may be very difficult to ride." That advice makes perfect sense to me.

So, call me a moron. I've only been in the sport since 1972 as an athlete and coach, and I certainly do have a lot to learn. That's the great thing about cycling -- it's a sport that teaches humility, whether you are turning the pedals or writing the training plans.

I disagreeSprint-Nick
Mar 2, 2003 10:28 PM
I disagree with how he phrased what he said. What he said is true but it almost sounds like he doesn't believe in rollers for anyone other than a very top level rider. I don't believe this is right because people may read this who were considering getting rollers and reconsider. Its compounded by the fact he has such notoriety for developing junior athletes.

I take back he's a moron but I don't take back that I don't like what he said and how he was quoted. He doesn't makes rollers sound much different than something that pros make look easy but is a challenge.

Now to get all philisophical. You don't miss just one oppurtunity by passing up a challenge... you miss many. With rollers you miss quality training time, learning to spin and handle your bike better and from there who knows.

Once again, only my 2 cents!
casual riders don't "train" = casual riders don't need rollers - now who's the moron?MJ
Mar 3, 2003 4:12 AM
maybe you should read rather than skim before posting your rants
:) (nm)Sprint-Nick
Mar 3, 2003 8:18 AM