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more ebay fraud?(10 posts)

more ebay fraud?weiwentg
Mar 1, 2003 6:04 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2714386859&category=7298

the pictures are ripped off from cyclingnews, the seller has 0 feedback and is in France, the description is incorrect (the wheels are Mavic Classics, not Ks, and the seatpost isn't carbon) ... this sounds very fishy.
Maybe....Alexx
Mar 2, 2003 10:58 AM
Still, if it is a fraud, the guy's at least using a few brain cells. Usually these frauds just copy a current auction verbatim from another posting. This one isn't similar to any current e-bay listings. Still, you should try this if you are interested in checking his validity-ask what type of payment he will accept. If he asks for it to be wired before shipping, yeah, he's a fraud...
re: more ebay fraud?filtersweep
Mar 2, 2003 2:36 PM
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2002/features/probikes/saeco.shtml
re: more ebay fraud?russw19
Mar 2, 2003 3:00 PM
You guys aren't even focusing on the obvious... the part that is disturbing to me is that it's 100% obvious this in not the picture of the bike, but what's worse is that he doesn't even talk about what the components are. It screams of fraud when you know that the bike pictured was built for Fabio Sacchi. If this was indeed the same bike, and you were selling it, would you not mention that? I know I sure as hell would. It would be listed as Ex-Saeco Team Bike... not simply "Cad 7"
The only thing the guy talks about in the ad is the pedals and the wheels... does it have anything else? Does it come with a drivetrain, bars, stem, post, seat... you all see where I am going with this...
If it's indeed Fabio Sacchi's bike, someone is going to get a gem, but I would heed Ebay's own mantra of Buyer Beware!

Russ
I sent the seller an email asking him...Djudd
Mar 2, 2003 3:02 PM
about the auction pointing out the cyclingnews images. He answered saying he had not copied the images from anywhere, that I am mistaken. I buy a lot of stuff from ebay and feel obligated to notify ebay of this possible fraud. The only real policing on ebay is self-policing.
I sent the seller an email asking him...russw19
Mar 2, 2003 3:55 PM
You could always drop an email to cyclingnews.com and explain what he told you to them. I am sure they would be just as interested in this as we all are.

Russ
as a matter of fact I did just that...Djudd
Mar 2, 2003 4:13 PM
I flubbed the first ebay address to them(as usual) and sent them the auction via email...waiting for the second response from them. Call it righteous indignation
argh! how???weiwentg
Mar 2, 2003 5:43 PM
ebay is abominable. there is NO clear way to report fraud of this sort (or any sort).
re: argh! how???Djudd
Mar 2, 2003 6:14 PM
I sent ebay a message through customer support with the item number and the cyclingnews image address. I got a return email thank you and a promise they would investigate and give me an answer within 36 hours
here's how:Alexx
Mar 3, 2003 2:02 PM
I just e-mailed every person that has bid on this bike, telling them the story, and giving them this link. If they still pay this thief, then they deserve to lose money for being stupid...