Mar 1, 2003 4:00 AM
|is it a uscf thing that 30+ is labeled "masters?" man, if so, this just shoots a bunch of holes in my sail. i shouldn't feel old already...i'm 26, and i just picked up road biking 2 months ago. i find now that i really love it, and i look forward to years and years of doing it. but seeing that once you hit 30 you're said to be in the old folks league and it's all ice cream rides and trips to 7-11 for nudie mags and efferdent from there, that sucks. woohoo!, i've got 4 years left before i'm looking for a carbon cane and geritol in my water bottle. looking back sucks and we shouldn't spend our time saying "i wish this" or "if only i had...", but i really do wish that i had gotten the bug when i was, say, 20. man, that would have been awesome. who knows where i'd be today. instead of just starting out and asking all my moronic questions like a first grader now, i could be...you know, i'm sure you've all had this go through your head, too.
well, let me turn off bette midler's greatest hits, dry my eyes, and get to bed. that was pretty teary-eyed and cheesy now that i read it. whatever, 26 or 62, i'm going riding tomorrow. later...is geritol good?
|Oh yeah! I mix my Geritol w/Hammer Gel!||jesse1|
Mar 1, 2003 4:29 AM
|Masters is kind of a strange name for any age group. I'm a Masters, and in the MTN biking world in a couple years I'll be a Grand Masters!So far I haven't been able to "master" any aspect of bikeing.|
|I hate to break this to you....||merckx56|
Mar 1, 2003 5:20 AM
|but the 30+ races that go off in the Southeast are the fastest and most competitive. Most of the guys who race 30+ are at least cat3 and a lot of times you are lining up against old pros. Kent Bostick (almost 50 and 4 time Olympian) lapped the Masters field last Saturday in Greenville, SC. Don't think it's a bunch of old farts out rolling around. You'll get shot out the back quicker than you can say "old fart"!!|
|Agreed, older IS NOT slower...||husker|
Mar 1, 2003 5:43 AM
|sometimes, many times, just the opposite. Some masters are scary fast.|
|Masters Crit Greenville, SC||abicirider|
Mar 1, 2003 6:59 AM
|Can you imagine how fast the masters crit will be on Sunday in Greenville, Hold on for dear life that is what it will be about
Be safe out on the roads
|I hate to break this to you....||filly|
Mar 1, 2003 9:06 PM
|don't get me wrong--i'm not implying that 30+ is for old farts. i believe you 100% that these guys end up being better and faster than they were when they were 25. i'm simply saying that it's unfortunate (i know, could be worse...) that i didn't pick up the sport until now. who wouldn't mind having 10 more years under their belt? i know i wouldn't.|
Mar 1, 2003 6:10 AM
|Here in NE Ohio most of the masters racers are Cat 3 and up so these races are just as fast and sometimes faster than the ones with younger riders.
I thought you were wrong about the 30+ age requirement, but after checking the USCF website you are correct. In all the races I've done they don't let you race masters unless you are 35 and older. I thought I had a few more years to go to become a masters racer, but according to USCF I qualify. Now I feel old.
|In My Experience...........||MerlinMan|
Mar 1, 2003 7:26 AM
|In my experience in Mt biking, the 30-34 class has consistantly been the most competitve turning faster times than the younger classes here in MI.
I hope from a pure survival standpoint that you have been Mt biking before your two months on the road bike. Without any previous cycle cardio training the local Tuesday night ride should be an eye opener to put it mildly.
Welcome to cycling though! Half the fun is seeing the rapid improvements you will make. By the way, isn't Lance 34?
|That's the best thing about bike racing||Emu_Lane|
Mar 1, 2003 8:10 AM
|If you were 26 and just starting most other sports, you'd be way past your prime and probably unable to ever be competitive. BTW, Lance is 31, but I guarantee, if he doesn't retire, he'll still be the best when he is 34. Museeuw is 37 and The Lion King is 36. Look at your local studs, odds are most of them are 30+.|
|nope, he's 31||merckx56|
Mar 1, 2003 12:42 PM
Mar 1, 2003 9:04 AM
|-seems many "endurance sports" (ie. sustained cardio that lasts longer than, say, a minute or 10) favor "older" athletes. It might be the mental training that is necessary... I don't know- but you don't find 18 yr old marathon winners- as one example- (so it is not just Lance).
-I know I did not have the financial resources or the self-discipline to be serious about cycling when I was younger (ie. partying and cycling don't exactly mix)
Mar 1, 2003 11:45 AM
|Seems to me I read an article a few years back saying that outright muscle strength efficiency tended to peak fairly early, something like 23 years old, but that your body's endurance capability peaked a fair bit later, somewhere between 28 and 30.
Understand that was your body's innate ability, all other things being equal, and it's not like there is a precipitous drop on the other side. I would think in many cases (such as LA's) experience, tenacity etc. more than make up for any small decline he may experience in the near term.
BTW I noticed the same trend mentioned above in running - the 30-40 age category was far more competitive than the 20-30. When I turned 30 I went from winning the occasional medal in my category to basically finishing in my category in the same place I finished overall in the race, ie. virtually all the top finishers were 30-40.
At least in running they did us the dignity of not calling people masters until they were 40 years old! ;-)
|I hear ya', but a lot of good point are raised here, by others..||jtferraro|
Mar 1, 2003 10:20 AM
|Like you, I also wish I was bitten by the road bug earlier. I was just bit last spring, at age 31, and since have really, really gotten into it. I tested out my abilities in a few centuries last year, on my mtb, as I didn't purchse my new road bike til' the fall. For Xmas, I received some training books and shortly thereafter, had started to train a bit(spinning classes, treadmill running, etc.) NEway...I was looking really forward to doing a lot of group rides this spring/summer and probably entering a few CAT5 races. Be happy you are 26. I'm now 32 and just messed up my knee snowboarding. This knee injury not only ended my snowboarding season a tad early, but ALSO is putting a huge dent in my competetive cycling season, too. So, you can be much worse off(I know I can be, too) - I'll have months of physical therapy and my knee won't be back to 100% for, at least, 6 months post-op. Just be happy you *DID* get bit by the bug and go w/it. Don't look back, just look ahead and you will realize how lucky you are and it will bring out your best. Many people had great points here...cycling is definitely a sport you can be competetive in til' you are over 40, and after that you can STILL really enjoy it.
I *do* hear you, though....I mean...30+ just doesn't feel old yet and all this "masters" talk does kinda take the wind out of yer sail!
|LA sure has slowed since hitting 30 (nm)||DCP|
Mar 1, 2003 11:02 AM
|How about a nice icecream ride with my group of "old guys"?||look271|
Mar 1, 2003 11:42 AM
|We'll kick your 26 y/o ass. I'm soon to be 44 and I'm faster now than I ever have been. Did a century last year on a FIXIE @ 18+ mph and a couple of yrs ago did the same century @ 22+ mph on a geared bike. I'm not boasting-I'm slow compared to a lot of the guys that I ride with and most of them saw 30 a long time ago. Get over it. 30 is just getting started.|
|re: 30+||Matt Britter|
Mar 1, 2003 1:15 PM
|Most of the guys in our club who can race the Master (35+ in N. Cal) also say that it is faster than the 3's race. Also probably 60% of the guys racing Master are ALSO racing in one of the Senior classes the same day (crits) so they are not over the hill yet.
|Stop complaining--I wish I could still REMEMBER being 26 (nm)||The Walrus|
Mar 1, 2003 4:16 PM
|Stop complaining--I wish I could still REMEMBER being 26 (nm)||russw19|
Mar 1, 2003 7:47 PM
|Next year I will qualify for my Master's license with the USCF... I can't wait! The money in Master's races is amazing in the south. Better than many of the Cat 3 races. And as a Master, you can race both! Sweet! I raced Cat 2 last year, but a hockey knee injury will derail my racing this year, so I will ask to be downgraded (I don't think to a 4, but at least to 3) as I don't expect recovery to be full until near the end of the season anyways... I will have to do some damn hard training to be competitive in Master's next year around here though. Looking forward to riding with the big boys...even if they are old!
|About that knee injury...||jtferraro|
Mar 1, 2003 10:04 PM
|Curious to know if you tore your ACL and/or anything else? I just ruined - "terrible/unhappy triad" my knee snowboarding. MCL/ACL/menisus + tibial plateau fracture.
|About that knee injury...||russw19|
Mar 2, 2003 4:07 PM
|I went knee to knee with another guy on the ice in a collision. He got the worst of it as I am quite a bit bigger than him. I am also in much better shape from cycling than that guy was too.
I broke my patela. One of the broken edges cut my Medial Meniscus, and I strained my ACL. My doctor was quite amazed that I didn't tear the ACL in the process. The problem with my knee really isn't that bad, in itself... but it will kill most of this season for me because the Florida racing season started already and now because I have been sitting and watching TV and replying to too many threads here.. I have since already put on like 15 pounds. I will miss the early season here in Florida, but there are really 2 seasons. Spring and Fall. It's just too damn hot to race in the middle of summer. But back in January when I should have been putting in my base miles, I was sitting on the couch eating chips.
As of right now, I am actually about to get back on the ice, but the strain of riding for an hour or more is too much for my patela to handle. It starts getting really swollen after about 20 minutes so I can't ride yet. Skating hasn't had the same effect so I can skate some now. I am not playing, as another collision would brake it again right now, but I am skating a bit in practice and taking shots and stuff.... I figure I am 3 months from riding again, but 1 month from non-checking hockey. I just won't be setting up a check at the blue-line again for a bit.
By the way, sorry to hear about your knee. I take solace in the fact that I was having a blast when I hurt mine, and I laid a good hit when I did it, but the guy I hit collided with my knee on the follow thru.