|FSA Team Carbon Crankset||Franchise|
Feb 28, 2003 6:13 PM
I was wondering if it would be possible to get some feedback on these carbon fiber cranks(FSA Team). I am running Campy 10spd, so if anyone has experience with the bottom bracket, I'd appreciate that as well. Is the Q-factor much different than Campy Record cranks? Thanks in advance for your feedback. It is much appreciated.
|re: FSA Team Carbon Crankset||russw19|
Feb 28, 2003 7:33 PM
|I have a set of the Team Carbon 10s mated to a Platinum Pro Ti bottom bracket. I just got them this month and I don't have a whole lot of time on them yet, but they are very very nicely made and they are not only light, but they look good too. My crank came with alloy crank bolts, but I may swap them out to the cromoly ones they sell. It feels weird to crank down really hard on alloy bolts. I am afraid of snapping them off in the crank. I am thinking that a few extra grams would be worth the piece of mind to know I can torque on those bolts. The first time I rode on the new crank, I got 10 miles into the ride and had to turn back because of the creaking from the bolts not being tight enough. But the FSA chainrings shift just fine, and the bottom bracket is plenty stiff. I don't know the Q-Factor numbers on each, but everything feels fine. I would recommend it to anyone. If I had my original choice, I may not have bought the FSA bottom bracket, but it was hard to find another brand available in Italian Thread for my frame in an ISIS spindle, but having riden it, I am now completely happy with it. My original first choice for anyone interested was the American Classic ISIS bottom bracket, but they only offer it in English Threading.
Hope this answers some of your questions, but as far as the Q-Factor?, I am sure you can find the numbers on the websites for each company. Otherwise, I would say to just call FSA. They have an 888 number on their website and they are very helpful on the phone. I am sure they can give you the tech specs on their cranks for you.
|re: FSA Team Carbon Crankset||Franchise|
Feb 28, 2003 8:26 PM
Thanks for your feedback. I understand your concern with the alloy crank bolts. If this is the case, I will likely do the same, and replace them with cromoly bolts. Have you had any other problems once you tighted the bolts?
I too need the ISIS bottom bracket in an Italian thread. It's nice to hear that you're happy with it, though. Thanks again.
By the way, I think these cranks look great also. I've got some concerns with the finish, and its durability, though. Thanks!
|re: FSA Team Carbon Crankset||russw19|
Feb 28, 2003 9:04 PM
|I pulled the bolts out at the end of that ride... they were loose when I did, so I obviously didn't tighten them enough initially. I took them out and regreased them and reinstalled them. When I put them back in, I torqued the crap out of them. No problems since. The Platinum Ti bottom bracket uses those oversize bolts and I couldn't find any steel bolts to tighten down with first, so I just carefully tightened down the alloy bolts....carefully.
As for an Italian bottom bracket, FSA had the only ISIS one I could find, but it's really nice, light, and stiff. Buy it, you won't be sorry. The bottom bracket is actually what comes with the crank bolts. The crank comes with alloy self-extracting bolts, but they are a smaller diameter than the bottom bracket spindle.
As for the finish on the cranks, be carefull, it scratches easy. I was taking my bike out of my car and set the bike down on the crank, and it scratched the crank arm. But no worries, you can touch it up with a black magic marker... just be careful if you clip your cranks on corners as it will chew it up pretty quick.
I got them employee purchase as I work in a shop, so they are definately worth what I paid for them, and they are probably worth retail too. I think you will like them. They are a really nice alternative to Campy or Shimano cranks. They are light and stiff, and like I said, the Campy version still shifts great with the FSA rings.
|re: FSA Team Carbon Crankset FYI||Akirasho|
Mar 1, 2003 1:00 AM
|... Total Cycling has square taper and Octalink available for approximately $296 USD... I just ordered my second set.
Functionally, they're just cranks... but aesthetically, they're da bomb... mine still look like new (save for the cheesy "Octalink" decal that was probably applied afterwards as an aftermarkethought
I have no idea of their Q, but they feelz good.
Be the bike.
Mar 1, 2003 5:27 AM
|The lowest price I've seen from a domestic source is at txcyclesport.com. I think they're asking $309.|
Mar 1, 2003 7:12 AM
|Thanks for the tip! I almost bought them at my LBS for much, much more!|
|re: FSA Team Carbon Crankset FYI||Franchise|
Mar 1, 2003 7:14 AM
|Second set, eh? You must really like them. Thanks for your feedback. I'm going to order mine today!|
|re: FSA Team Carbon Crankset||Franchise|
Mar 1, 2003 7:11 AM
Thanks for your feedback. I'm going to order mine today! Too bad about the finish being a litte fragile, but I will also make sure I get a magic marker as well!
I especially appreciate the feedback on the bottom bracket. That was one of my biggest concerns. I like the record crankset and bottom bracket, but I wanted to do something a little different than my bikes in the past on this build up. I'll post pics when its done! Thanks.
|install w/ steel bolt, then replace with alloy||weiwentg|
Mar 1, 2003 3:27 PM
|some people on MTBR have had problems with the alloy bolts breaking. I think the solution was to use steel bolts to install and then screw the alloy ones in. are those alloy bolts self-extracting?
as for Q-factor, I've heard it's slightly wider than DA.
|install w/ steel bolt, then replace with alloy||russw19|
Mar 1, 2003 6:59 PM
|Oh believe me, I ain't dumb, and that was thought number 1!
Problem is on the FSA Platinum bottom bracket the spindle uses a larger diameter bolt. It's bigger than the bolts for my Dura-Ace crank, or I would have torqued down with them first. They use the oversized bolt specifically so they can use the alloy bolts. The larger design in theory allows them to make a strong enough alloy bolt so the weight savings is a factor. My problem is that I feel weird about cranking down hard on an alloy bolt, no matter what the guy on the phone says about how they can take it.... But with the bottom bracket I got, no other bolts I had, or could find lying around the shop would work. I am sure I could get FSA to send me a set from their Hussfelt Bottom Bracket, but I didn't have them on hand. Standard bolts don't fit. That was the problem.
Now, for another subject.. Franchise, I would really recommend you go with an ISIS spindle (because you can't use Octalink for the Campy crank) if you are using a carbon crank. Don't go square taper spindles... the ISIS spindles are so much stiffer and stronger. And if you have an Italian thread frame, you are gonna have problems finding the bottom bracket, unless you just get the FSA. Like I said earlier, when I was looking, it was all I could find in Italian thread. It seems all the companies making ISIS bottom brackets are only making English, except FSA. I will tell you that when you go to order your crank and BB, don't be surprised if it isn't available. I had to actually order a 177.5 crank instead of a 175 as FSA was sold out of 175 Team Campy cranks when I called them. They expect to have all the production problems handled by mid March, but you may have to wait a few weeks. That was what I was told 3 weeks ago when I got my cranks. So don't be surprised if that happens, but they are worth the wait. As for the finish, just don't bang the crank arm on the pavement and you shouldn't need the marker ;-)
If you have a tough time getting your cranks, let me know, and I will call them and see what is available. I work in a shop in Florida, and if you can't get a set, I can help.
|install w/ steel bolt, then replace with alloy||Franchise|
Mar 1, 2003 7:52 PM
Thanks for the info again. I went with an ISIS spindle, and Team Issue Carbon Cranks. I got them from txcyclesport. Thanks for the offer. It must be nice to work in a shop. Do you get pretty good deals or get to demo components? You must have really wanted to get those cranks if you ordered a 177.5. I don't think I've ever seen cranks that size before, and I was unaware they made that size. By the way, my parents are in Miami this weekend, and they tell me that the temps are around 90degrees. It must be nice! I'm from the midwest, and the snow is terrible. No riding in my near future. Thanks again. I'll post a pic of the build-up when it is done!
|Platinum Pro Ti BB...||SS_MB-7|
Mar 3, 2003 10:22 AM
|I have a set of FSA Carbon Pro arms with Platinum Pro Ti BB on my singlespeed MTB. The Platinum Pro Ti BB actually uses a smaller bolt than their steel version ISIS BBs. The Ti uses M14s, whereas, the steel BBs use M15s (14 and 15 represent the bolt diameters). Ask FSA to send you a set of M14 steel crank bolts. Use the steel bolts to mount the arms and replace them with alloy afterward.
|FSA does not make a M14 self-extracting bolt....||SS_MB-7|
Mar 3, 2003 10:27 AM
|According to an email I received from FSA, they do not make a M14 self-extracting bolt for the Platinum Pro Ti....only a M15 self-extracting for their steel spindled ISIS BBs. The bolts shipped with the cranks are M15 self-extracting, but cannot be used with the Platinum Pro Ti BB, which comes with it's own M14 alloy bolts. I had FSA send me a set of M14 steel bolts for mounting, which I remove and replace with the M14 alloy.