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Calling Trek/carbon fiber historians.(21 posts)

Calling Trek/carbon fiber historians.gs6769
Feb 27, 2003 4:43 AM
Hail all. A buddy of mine is interested in the attached. Since I'm no authority on Treks or carbon fiber bikes, we'd be interested in some thoughts regarding this cycle. Specifically on any structural integrity issues or other fundamental weaknesses as it would seem c/f's earlier days contained a 'false start' or two. Also, any info on the model itself would of course be welcomed.
Thanks in advance, and roll on into spring!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=7298&item=2713547316&rd=1
re: Calling Trek/carbon fiber historians.motta
Feb 27, 2003 5:56 AM
They have a reputation for becoming un-bonded at the lug joints. I have seen this three times. Trek has always been willing to repair them and usually gives the owner a choice in the new paint color (be sure and send the fork). I would contact Trek before purchasing to see if that is transferable to anyone other than the original owner.
re: Not bad But......teoteoteo
Feb 27, 2003 6:01 AM
I have sold Trek's for a number of years, this one isn't May be around 96-97 though I would have to look through old dealer catalogs to get a completely accurate date.

As for the bike they were pretty dependable as they used reliable bonding methods on this bike. It's took less technology and less risk than making the early OCLV's, the yield was a lower price frame that they used for 2300 models and a few others.

What to watch for on these models was de-lamination of clear coat on Carbon tubes. The issue usually occured where the Carbon tubes joined the Alum lugs. Heavy sweating riders would have the issue the most but over time it could develop on all frames. It just became a large corrosion spot that was risky when you considered how the frame was joined, I saw several sent back to Trek this way and to their credit Trek would refurbish (i.e. non-warranty issue due to caustic sweat)

As the bike sits it's only worth about 500 and with 5 days lt who knows where it will go.

I would say save a few more bucks and go buy a new Specialized Allez Elite with Carbon fork, seatpost, tiagra shifters, and 105 rear mech for 850. Specialized now comes with a lifetime warranty on the frame and you can proabably get a nice service package for your friend at most good shops....
$850...what?!?makalu
Feb 27, 2003 7:32 AM
The 2003 Specialized Allez Elite 18 is retailing in my LBS for $1149. Your only charging $850 for it??
$850...what?!?Joe Connell
Feb 27, 2003 7:56 AM
He's talking about the Allez Sport. Look at the Specs. The Elite comes with a full 105 group (minus cranks and brakes). I just bought an Elite, it was $1000 (mine was a double though). Great bike for the money.

Joe
Curiousmakalu
Feb 27, 2003 8:16 AM
Did you get a discounted price cause you swapped from a triple to a double?

I ask, cause I just did the same thing, and got no discount at all. In fact, since they had to order the double parts and pay delivery et al, they would not negotiate on the price AT ALL.

Thanks a bunch.
Nope, but it came as a Double...Joe Connell
Feb 27, 2003 8:36 AM
I got it two or three weeks ago, and when I got it, it wasn't even on the website. It's listed on there now. The Double's list is 1040 and the Triple's is 1140. I got $40 off, but no discount. That's just the price the lbs quoted everyone. I don't even think they had any of the triples when I bought mine. They sold out of them before they even had them built up. That was pretty neat!

Joe
Gotchamakalu
Feb 27, 2003 8:55 AM
I think my LBS did not do any price adjustment, because the bike I got only comes with a triple. The negotiation was the free swapping of parts. ALso, the price of $949 was $40 less then what Trek has quoted on the wedbsite, so a discount lies there as well.

You got the Allez Elite 18 model??
Yep...Joe Connell
Feb 27, 2003 10:00 AM
It fit best. I'm mostly a MTB'er, so I think the compact frame is normal. Plus, I have relatively short legs, so it works out that way better for me too. I liked the spec for the money on it. My bike shop would have worked with me on the double/triple conversion if I'd wanted them to.

Joe
Sport...too many damn modelsteoteoteo
Feb 27, 2003 9:38 AM
It was the Sport...so many models of that damn Allez I confuse them sometimes.
re: Calling Trek/carbon fiber historians.DaveLobster
Feb 27, 2003 6:05 AM
The 3-tube carbon Trek was around a long time. They were introduced in 86/87, and were still being offered as a lower-priced alternative to OCLV carbon up through 98. After that they were replaced by all aluminum bikes which strangely enough used the same model numbers.

I had one of the earlier ones, an 87 2500 which came unglued around the bottom bracket and is now a garage ornament. However, this is after giving 15 or so years of fine service. Knowing Trek, I would bet that the later models were better developed.

The one in this auction is newer, which I can tell from the "ZX" decals and the different seat-tube/stay lug. I would guess around early/mid-90's. With the threaded aluminum fork and 8-speed 105 group, I don't think it is worth $500. -dave
Nice green grass in the pic......Is spring near?????!(nm)cdale02
Feb 27, 2003 6:35 AM
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Nice green grass in the pic......Is spring near?????!(nm)russw19
Feb 27, 2003 8:10 AM
Spring, that guy is in Jacksonville Florida... I live near there.. it's almost summer here! Went out for about 50 miles yesterday.. nice little breeze, about 72 degrees, sunny, not too humid yet... nice day (but it's raining today)

In like a month it will be too darn hot to ride at 2 in the afternoon like I did yesterday.
Looks like another weekend on the trainer.cdale02
Feb 27, 2003 11:36 AM
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You and Filtersweep go on a board sabbatical together ?Scot_Gore
Feb 27, 2003 9:12 AM
Good to see you both back : )

Scot
Call it wistful thinking...filtersweep
Feb 27, 2003 10:39 AM
...going crazy waiting for spring to arrive (and completely sick of the health club). I find it too depressing reading about all the "winter riders" in warmer climes, so indeed I avoid this place for a few months.
I'm thinking this weekend looks good, I'm riding, because I'm sick of it too (NM)Scot_Gore
Feb 27, 2003 11:15 AM
-the mess-filtersweep
Feb 27, 2003 11:40 AM
(sorry to hijack this thread)- I might wait for a good rain... it can be quite messy- and I don't care for all the corrosive salts already on the roads...

on the other hand, this weather isn't even good for CC skiing...

The odd thing about the health club is that I can't stand a stationary bike or a treadmill... they are such poor semblences of the real deal, so I've been using those eliptical machines- whose motions resembles nothing in the real world, making them all the more tolerable, if that makes any sense.

I'm probably going to do that weird Lakeville "Iron Man" in April- weird in that it isn't even a proper Iron Man- but for some odd reason, it looks interesting.

I'm also moving April 1st to SW Mpls- one of the factors in buying a house was location relative to biking corridors- so I'll be a block off Minnehaha Creek and a few blocks south of Lake Harriet- I'll still miss downtown and the ease of hooking up with the Kennilworth or the River, although the Creek goes straight to the river.

We should organize another ride this spring- last year's ride inspired me to get out of my ruts of taking the same routes all the time.
I know - it will be messy, but the bike washes off & so do I.Scot_Gore
Feb 27, 2003 1:59 PM
I sick of the rollers already.

I planning on doing the 200K Brevet in Rochester on 5/3/03. Never done one before, but I want to have the legs ready for it and the only way is with some outdoor miles.

I've got studs and fenders on my mountain bike as of last weekend in any event.

I might ride the Ironman, but probably not the 100. I think the story on the event name is TCBC was using the name "Ironman" for that ride long before there was a Tri with a tradmark event called "Ironman". TCBC (or Hosteling folks, not sure) agreed not to contest the use of the name in exchange for being able to continue using it. I'm sure it was friendly agreement, not anything involving lawyers, but don't really know all the details.

Scot (tread hi-jacker)
BTW - Did you see my Xmas post ??? (nm)Scot_Gore
Feb 27, 2003 3:45 PM
no bargain..dotkaye
Feb 27, 2003 12:35 PM
at $500 it's no bargain. Add in the known bonding issues with the carbon and aluminium lugs, and I'd be leery of it. It might be just fine, but personally I wouldn't risk $500 on it. Trek's warranty is to the original owner, so if anything did go wrong with the frame, you'd have no recourse.