RoadBikeReview.com's Forum Archives - General


Archive Home >> General(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 )


Cyclingnews.com question (National team confusion)(21 posts)

Cyclingnews.com question (National team confusion)PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Feb 26, 2003 2:44 PM
Today a question was posted on CyclingNews which I sent regarding sprint training which was signed "Nick Corcoran -
Canadian National Team Member" which I would like to address.

Before I begin I will state a quick overview of the hightlights of my career. In 2001 I competed at the 2001 Junior World Track Championships in the Olympic Sprint and 200 m time trial (qualifier for match sprint). In the fall of 2001 myself and my teammates were then named to the Canadian National team albeit in a developemental role. As a group we showed more promise than any other juniors have in at least 10 years and this was rewarded. So for 2001/2002 I had this designation affiliated with my name at times. However, as we reach the beginning of the 2003 season to my suprise checking the National team roster today without my knowledge I have been removed while my teammates have remained. I am looking into why this may have happened especially without my knowledge.

Now to why a national team rider/former national team rider would be asking training questions online. After training at the Olympic Oval both directly and indirectly with Kurt Innes (national sprint coach) from the 1999-2000, 2000-2001 and 2001-2002 season I decided to part ways mid-way through the 2002 season. Kurt brought me to where I was as a development rider on the national team but for a number of reasons I decided I did not want to train at the Olympic Oval anymore. This was due in part to an injury, feeling the attitude of certain people I was training around with was negative and that the program as it stood wasn't right for me. I wasn't alone in my actions as 3 other people including my teammate at the Junior World Championships, Ryan McKenzie, also made a move away from the Oval. Needless to say this move was not without direction. I began training with Peak Power in July 2002, a company who's coaches all have their masters degrees and have an excellent knowledge of weight training. And as we head into the 2003 season I am stronger and more powerful than ever before. However, their expertise is no longer completely required and now as Provincials/Nationals are 5-6 months away I find myself looking other places than Kurt to figure out how to put this strength onto the bike. This has led me to search out excercise physiologists - 3 of whom I am in negotiations with deciding who will be best and taking shots in the dark like posting on CyclingNews.com.

I understand the comotion this caused and I apologize for it. This has caused just as much confusion as it has for everyone as it has for me and I hope this message will straighten things out.

Thank you for your understanding,
Nick Corcoran
PodiumBound.ca

Below is a picture of the team from 2001. I am in the middle and you will probably realize the jump squat picture and this one match up.
Please, please please go away!AaronL
Feb 26, 2003 2:46 PM
WE DO NOT CARE!
ReplyPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Feb 26, 2003 2:51 PM
Nothing is making you read my posts. I am trying to set a kafflufel that was unintentionally caused straight that not only affects my reputation but the reputation of the Canadian Cycling Team. This I take quite seriously as I feel I should.

Nick
!#*#?Rich_Racer
Feb 26, 2003 2:59 PM
AaronL - what is your problem?! Has he wronged you in a previous life?! Would you be as happy to be so randomly abusive to someone's face?! If you don't actually have a point to make then just don't post crap like "we don't care". And please don't presume to use "we"! You're allowed to think, "I don't care" and then do nothing! That's it! When someone ties you to a post and forces you to read Nick's posts, then you may have a warrant to complain.
Excuse me!AaronL
Feb 26, 2003 3:20 PM
My problem is not that I consider myself a spokesperson for this board, but I've been reading his drivel for several years now, and he's had WAY more than his share of flame wars on this board. Remember the bent frame thread from a month ago? I do, it was absolutely absurd. That's just the most recent.

And yes, I would have no problem telling someone, or you, I don't like them, or you, to their, your, face.

I may be the only one posting that I'm sick of his tripe, but I KNOW I'm not the only one thinking it.
Excuse me!desmo
Feb 26, 2003 5:47 PM
Aaron is right in speaking up, and in my opinion is not out of line. I could never really figure out what Nick's posts were all about, but figured he's young, Canadian, and has had a bad concussion so just let it go, right. But the me, me, me, stuff gets old fast and invites contempt and ridicule. Reminds me of this moron on the Bicycling.com site, Solar/Mango something or other who has to chime in everytime he pops a zit or buys something on ebay. Of course he fits right in on those posts, but it's nice to do without over here.
Excuse me!The Human G-Nome
Feb 26, 2003 6:01 PM
ok, now you've stepped over the line buddy! dissin' solar/mango??? just kidding, but i think it's hilarious that his handle just made it to RBR. i think mango's posts are funny because they are always SOOOOOO over the top that you can't possibly take him seriously. nick borders on this as well, but his posts tend to come off as arrogant so people get rubbed the wrong way. it's understandable.
Oh, Lordy! Solar/Mango/Monkey from bicycling.comjtolleson
Feb 26, 2003 6:48 PM
This board would eat him alive; he's given large dollops of kindness on bicycling.com.

I can't say that his self-obsession doesn't grate on me a bit, and he can be an abusive jackass when he isn't get his way (or is subject to the most minor criticism). It takes all kinds I guess, but I've got to agree with your "moron" reference.

I'd give him a gentler assessment if he weren't such a jerk from time-to-time.
heh, minor criticism ;)collinsc
Feb 26, 2003 8:27 PM
yeah, those climbs were pretty hardcore....
I was wonderingjtolleson
Feb 26, 2003 4:07 PM
why you felt compelled to post this here. I ask it sincerely, not as a flame in disguise.

Reading back over this post (and some others, like your weight training pic) do you see anything that helps you understand why some of your posts aren't well received?

I was curious.
I'm with you and AaronL.......cdale02
Feb 26, 2003 4:31 PM
I can't figure out what this guy is thinking. I don't necessarily mind the posts - makes me wonder how big of a loser this guy can make me think he is.

He may be a fast bike rider (sorry, sprinter), but jeeze, the guy seems to be clueless on interpersonal relationships and utterly incapable of placing himself in the postition of others to attempt to understand why he is not well received.

Makes me think "what can I learn from this...." not in a biking sense, but in a life sense.

ride on.
I'm with you and AaronL.......filtersweep
Feb 26, 2003 7:01 PM
I doubt it matters... someone self-obsessed usually doesn't care what others think- in fact they usually think everyone is jealous or that they want to BE them.... the whole issue also reminds me a bit of Michael Jackson- how could someone be that insulated from reality?
Wot's...uh the dealtremblay
Feb 26, 2003 5:12 PM
Um, yeah, I'm not sure why you posted this here. To tell the truth, it's kinda, umm, not something that affects us.

I couldn't quite understand why you thought everyone here would want to read this, as most people probably wonder what the heck you are talking about.

Oh well. I guess.
Wot's...uh the dealThe Human G-Nome
Feb 26, 2003 6:04 PM
ditto. it's a mystery. i read the whole thing thinking there would be a point. did he "restore dignity" to his fellow candadians somehow and i missed it? i had no idea they needed their diginity restored. that being said, you mention "me" or reference "me" about 80 times yet never really mention anything that doesn't have to do with "me". so tell "me", why should i think "you" are important?
we don't care, why not start your own forum on your site....nmclimbo
Feb 26, 2003 7:23 PM
nm
Hey Nick, no rebuttals?tremblay
Feb 26, 2003 8:55 PM
I was hoping Nick would supply us with a few more responses...
Heh, flamed back to the stone age...but in a nice way...VertAddict
Feb 26, 2003 11:16 PM
I would almost feel sorry for Nick if I hadn't butted heads with him a few times when I first got on the site on the ever-present "maligned sprinters vs. endurance athletes" debate. Ha, and I thought I was doing something constructive at the time. Live an learn...

Nick, I mean this in a nice way, even as a fellow Canadian I couldn't understand what your post was trying to accomplish. Seems like maybe it was something meaningful to your team-mates but no one else.

Oh well, now I can put a face to a name. I guess you're not going to follow in Steve Baur's footsteps, eh? After all, he was a lousy endurance guy too... ;-)
Who this post was aimed atPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Feb 26, 2003 11:37 PM
This post was predominantly meant to be aimed at the couple people who questioned my status on the national team because I asked a question about how to train. Not to the general RBR.com board but of course being an open forum anyone can look at it.

Nick
PodiumBound.ca
That point was entirely lost in yourjtolleson
Feb 27, 2003 7:52 AM
self-promoting narrative. Going back to my question above (which you did not answer)... reading back over your posts, can you see at all what might be alienating to others?
Nick, Nick, Nick,...DougSloan
Feb 27, 2003 8:06 AM
We know you are the greatest rider north of Seattle. You don't need to keep reminding us.

Now, back away from the keybored (intentional), and go ride!

Doug
Nick, Nick, Nick,...key
Feb 27, 2003 9:39 AM
Nick,
wow, your biggest strength is clearly self-promotion. But please spare us all!!!!!!!!!!! What ever gave you the impression that anyone on this board cares to know this level of detail about YOU!!!!

Take Doug's advise and go for a ride, for a year or two.