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how hard is it !!!!???!!!(13 posts)

how hard is it !!!!???!!!climbo
Feb 25, 2003 1:10 PM
to return a tennis serve. I can't believe USA today put that as harder than saving a penalty kick. It even says in the details that you have 0.5 seconds reaction time compared to 0.25 for the penalty kick. They just went against their own data. I'm not reading anything I believe ever again beacuse it doesn't really matter how stupid I am....Oh whoops, wrong forum... where is the soccer forum anyway?
What is the site?PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Feb 25, 2003 1:13 PM
It was on the front page everyday but they stopped putting it there.

Feb 25, 2003 2:24 PM
if I had a nickel for every time I heard that..... :) -nmSmogRider
Feb 25, 2003 1:13 PM
Think about it.. there is more skill involvedbenja15
Feb 25, 2003 2:29 PM
To block a penalty kick you just jump in front of the ball, hell if you jump in any direction you have a possibility to stop it

however, for a tennis serve you have to react to hit the ball and then use some skill to return it within the box. Sounds a bit tricky to me.

I have played soccer for a number of years, and tried tennis a few times. Trust me its hard to hit a tennis ball coming at you slowly, a 100 mi./hr. serve makes it even harder to hit.
USA Today staff comparing apples & oranges again... nmtz
Feb 25, 2003 2:43 PM
i was not being seriousclimbo
Feb 25, 2003 7:31 PM
but now that you mention it, I've seen more tennis serves returned than penalties saved. Just because it involves some luck doesn't make it not hard. In fact, I would argue that it makes it even harder than returning a serve.
for the unpracticed person i bet more would block a kick-nmbenja15
Feb 25, 2003 8:21 PM
maybe but the article is not specific to novices - nmclimbo
Feb 26, 2003 4:33 AM
Still waiting for "Hitting a fastball from Randy Johnson" andBrooks
Feb 25, 2003 3:42 PM
something from car racing that everyone will howl about. Actually, hitting a pitch from a top softball (fastpitch) pitcher is probably harder. College and Olympic games are generally really low scoring, extra inning affairs. The pitch is nearly as fast as a major league pitcher's from about 20 feet closer in.

What else may be in the top five? How about batting in cricket, or is this going to be a mostly American fluff piece? Balance beam or other apparatus in gymnastics? I wopuldn't think anything from football or basketball would make the top five, except maybe kicking a field goal and that's not too hard (except for the Giants!).

So far, the TdF is the only event. All the others are moments. Comparing apples and oranges (tennis, soccer, marathon, etc) to a grape vineyard (TdF=lots of moments over a greater expanse).

Just more useless bar conversation.....
"is this going to be a mostly American fluff piece"???Bonked
Feb 26, 2003 1:32 PM
do you live in this country? do americans do anything that is not "American fluff?"

I have enjoyed this poll.Ian
Feb 26, 2003 5:09 AM
Sure they are comparing apples and oranges, but sometimes that is fun to do.

Soccer vs. tennis, I do not know, I have never had to stop a penalty kick or hit a 130 mph serve. Maybe they figure in soccer that you have set area (the goal) and a large object (your body) to block with. In tennis you have half the court (plus however high or low the person serving can keep the ball) and only a small object (the racket) to not only stop the ball, but return it.

I would say that the paper has done a good job so far with one glaring exception, running a marathon. We can easily compare that and the Tour. They are both highly aerobic events that do not require highly tuned motor skills or hand eye coordination. Basically, you move your legs until you reach your destination. So, I think that even the fitness required to ride the Tour route over three weeks, vs. the fitness required to run a marathon are so far apart, well, I can't even come up with words.

I ride with quite a few triathletes. We go out and ride 40-60 miles on Sat and Sun and then they will usually go for a 2-4 mile run. And don't forget their during week workouts. I would bet that most of them could complete a marathon with 2 weeks notice. They might not win their age group, but they would finish. Heck, I have not run in 7-8 years. But my lungs are in great shape from riding. I bet I could do a marathon in 6 weeks. But could I be ready to ride (just ride, not race) the Tour route in 6 weeks? No way, that would be a 6 month training plan.

Well, that's my $.02

I have enjoyed this poll.r-kelley
Feb 26, 2003 11:42 AM
You could run a marathon on almost no notice. I did it on 3 weeks training and finished in the top 10% of runners. Not really something I have a great desire to do again, but not really as hard as I thought it would be.
As for the fastball thing, I don't know about Randy Johnson's, but tennis magazine printed an article where Andre Aggasi charged a pitching machine set on 90mph and wasn't having much of a problem hitting (not bunting)the baseballs. I know how well we can trust things printed and I can't really remember where the report came from, but from what I've heard and seen of his hand/eye coordination, I'd believe it.