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Waterford/Gunnar bikes, Merlin bikes(9 posts)

Waterford/Gunnar bikes, Merlin bikesJuniorgriff
Feb 25, 2003 11:56 AM
Does anyone out there have any thoughts on these bikes? I have been looking into getting a road bike and a trusted friend with more cycling knowledge than I have recommended these bikes along with all the other big name bikes.
Got one53T
Feb 25, 2003 12:45 PM
I ride a Waterford 1200. There is no better steel bike made, although there are some that are different.

I race this bike and I'm a Cat 5. I've had more experienced riders seriously chastise me for having too good a bike. I'm old enough that I don't have to take anything they say seriously.
I own a Merlin XL Compact ......Morgan
Feb 25, 2003 1:13 PM
Purchased it in December. Merlin makes a wonderful Ti frame and the large frame build with DA and lite wheels will come in around 17 pounds. Just did the Snelling race this past weekend and place 8th in Cat 5. So it will perform if that is your goal. I will be doing the Solvang century on it March 8th, which on this bike will be a breeze.

I own a Merlin XL Compact ......S-U-B
Feb 25, 2003 9:14 PM
Morgan, how did you like the snelling Race? I was in that field as well. Finished 4th or 5th, it was a close sprint between the top 6th. It was nice of them not to turn the camera on though, so of course I did not get credit for my finish. Frustrating to bust your butt for 2+ hrs and have them screw it up like that. The funny thing is, they managed to place me 23rd! don't know where they came up with that. I'm in the process of trying to get it fixed but the referee at the race didn't seem to interested. I was riding the Blue GT, you must have been right behind me. good race. Sorry this is off topic.
re: Waterford/Gunnar bikes,MR_GRUMPY
Feb 25, 2003 1:22 PM
Gunnar bikes use the same tubes and are built in the same plant as the Waterfords. The Waterford 2200 is a work of art, built with lugs and the frame goes for $1600. The Waterford R14 is Tig welded and the frames go for $1300. The Gunnar is Tig welded with oversize tubes ( 1 1/4 Top and Down)built with 853 and True Temper OX Platinum and the frame sells for $650.
The major difference is that the Waterfords are fully custom and the Gunnar's aren't. The standard colors on the Gunnars also kind of suck. You have a choise of four without a clearcoat. They have a color of the month program that has some very good colors that come free with a clearcoat, but the downside is that you have to wait until a good color comes up.
You can always pay for custom paint and custom geometry on a Gunnar, but it kind of defeats the purpose. A top quality bike for almost nothing.
re: Waterford/Gunnar bikes, Merlin bikesTarball
Feb 25, 2003 1:29 PM
I'm currently riding a Gunnar mountain bike & it's as fine a bike as I've ridden. Top notch craftsmanship at a fraction of the cost of other brands of the same quality.
I love my Gunnar RoadietheBreeze
Feb 25, 2003 4:23 PM
The Roadie is one sweet piece of steel. The shop had one in my size in the "Roadie Blue" and it felt perfect the moment I got on. Just a simple twist of fate I guess.
It is my all around bike. I use it on rides of many distances and speeds, it climbs great and descends rock solid (but I'm kind of a downhill weenie relativly speaking, over 40 makes me nervous). And since it's built in Wisconsin you don't have that "Campy or Shimano" dilema, put on it what you like!

At just about $2K for a complete bike w/Ultegra it think it was a great deal.
Buy the Gunnar...crosscut
Feb 25, 2003 7:12 PM
You won't regret it. A great all-around bike, good for racing, century riding, everything, except off-road and loaded touring. Light-weight, stiff, very comfortable ride, and economical. Don't worry about the paint. Get a classy looking black one and just ride the hell out of it. It's one of the best bikes I've owned, and I've had expensive ones that have a considerable better reputation. I keep reaching for the gunnar, however. By the way, get a decent carbon fork and you'll be a happy rider.
I have the 2200LLSmith
Feb 26, 2003 12:55 PM
Just got it before Christmas. If you are looking for a custom build they did a great job for me. My local dealer took all the measurements and put the bike together when it came in. I think you would be happy with any bike that leaves the Waterford plant.They are not giving them away, but like most things you get what you pay for. The biggest problem I had was the color selection.I was ready to order mine so I went with a basic black and charcoal mix. I would start thinking about the color selection well before you are ready to order. The must have at least 300 standard colors for 2003.