Feb 25, 2003 8:18 AM
|My trainer is about 7 years old and has seen better days. I'm thinking about replacing it with a spinning bike. Does any of you own one? What are your thoughts? Any idea who makes them, where you can get them, what they cost, etc.?|
|they kick any trainer's butt IMO||ColnagoFE|
Feb 25, 2003 8:47 AM
|I have a near new Performance fluid trainer that I rarely ever use anymore since I got a JG Spinning bike for my house. I paid $200 since I bought one off a club that was changing to a new model of Spin bike, but they are close to $1000 new I think. WCP sells the Lemond Revmaster and I believe it's around a grand as well. I like the fixed gear and heavy flywheel and they are much more stable than your own bike mounted in a trainer. They adjust pretty well so you should be able to get a pretty good approximation of your bike position on one.|
|re: Spinning bike||tarwheel|
Feb 25, 2003 10:10 AM
|My YMCA has been trying out different models as they are getting ready to replace their fleet of spinning bikes. I will ask and see which models got the highest ratings and costs. I used to have a wind-load trainer, and the spinning bikes I have used are heads-and-shoulders better. I know they have improved trainers a lot in recent years, but I would think a spinning bike would still be better, particularly if you got one for a good price. The spinning bikes we use at the Y have adjustable stems and seatposts, so you can set them up like your road bike. The tension is adjustable on the flywheel, so you can simulate climbs. Shoot, I might even try to buy one of the used spin bikes at the Y once they get their new ones.|
|re: Spinning bike||capnjim01|
Feb 25, 2003 12:11 PM
|it seems to me, IMHO. that if you could buy a tranier for under $200 and convert a beater to fixed gear you would come out way ahead instead of spending a grand on a spinning bike. at the very least you could use the beater as a bad weather bike or just an extra bike.|
|Not nearly the same||Mel Erickson|
Feb 25, 2003 1:19 PM
|It's that 50# flywheel that makes the difference. Put a fixed gear bike on a trainer and you've got, well, a fixed gear on a trainer. Pretty much the same as a geared bike on a trainer because the resistance (wind, magnetic, fluid etc) slows the bike quickly. The flywheel keeps things moving and it makes all the difference. Besides, a spin bike is alot more stable to boot.|
|cheaper does not always=better||ColnagoFE|
Feb 25, 2003 1:23 PM
|It's not just the fixed gear....the heavy flywheel also adds to the benefit. Plus a Spin bike is a lot more stable when you really crank.|
|re: Spinning bike||pina|
Feb 25, 2003 12:49 PM
|i own a schwinn Johnny G spinner, got it in around 95 i think. Very solid and as far as i am concerned a lot more stable than a bike on trainer. You can ride out of the saddle very comfortably. It is also very easy to move it from room to room and my wife likes it alot also. You can use your pedal system also and i use the saddle i prefer. No wearing tires and stressing frames. I don't even think of going back to the trainer anymore. It feels like riding my fixed gear to me. I am able to get time on it when i wouldn't be able to get out for a ride. Is quieter than trainer also.|
|re: Spinning bike||jtolleson|
Feb 25, 2003 1:01 PM
|Yup. Quieter, more stable, can stimulate better resistance, no fear of torquing frame out of the saddle, and NO FLATS.
I'm a very happy owner of a Johnny G Spinner.
|re: Spinning bike||Seth1|
Feb 25, 2003 1:12 PM
|which model do you have?|
|I don't remember||jtolleson|
Feb 25, 2003 1:33 PM
|I'll look when I get home. But it is about 4 years old and pretty much identical to what we've got at my gym.|
|they dont make the Schwinns anymore||ColnagoFE|
Feb 26, 2003 7:33 AM
|here is the replacement they are selling now http://spinning.com/bikes/bikes_johnnygspinnerpro.aspx
I have an old Schwinn JG pro spinner and it works great, but a lesser consumer model would likely work just as well for home use. These are designed to be used by multiple people for hours daily. Personally I wouldn't bother with the Elite...the only diff is that it has a clutch and if you stop pedalling suddenly it will not tear your knees off. The clutch can get out of adjustment pretty easy too.
Feb 26, 2003 7:35 AM
|Johnny G Spinner® Elite $1,195.00
Johnny G Spinner® Pro $995.00
|Theres pros and cons||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
Feb 25, 2003 1:19 PM
|The pros as I see it are durable, easy setup, easy resistance change.
The main con though is that the flywheel against the resistance makes for a little less than real road feel when doing really hard anaerobic stuff. The only trainers that can math this are the Kurt and 1upUSA though.
If you do buy a trainer let me recommend one like the Lemond. What makes it so great is a great range of movement in the saddle, seatpost, handlebar (height and reach) combined with one of the best mechanisms to apply reistance. Instead of some that use a brake pad rubbing the outer edge on the flywheel where a tire would be it uses a cloth like pad like a brake that gets squeezed together to give a very smooth restance curve. Out of all the bikes I've taught on (I've taugh on 4 altogether) this is by far the nicest.
Hope this helps,
|Theres pros and cons||Seth1|
Feb 25, 2003 1:35 PM
|That is helpful. I've never actually been on a Lemond but saw them in the World Cycling catalog.|
|what kind of bike do you teach on? Reebok maybe?||ColnagoFE|
Feb 26, 2003 7:42 AM
|The JG Spinning bikes all have brake-like resistance pads like you describe on the lemond. And I have never ridden any resistance trainer that felt remotely like road riding--even the better fluid units.|
|No handlebar adjustment front back though?||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
Feb 26, 2003 9:04 AM
|The JG bikes are nice but I think you pay a lot for the name.
As for what bikes I've ridden I have never paid enough attention to look at the names but some of them could be Reebok. No matter what though you want brake like reistance pads, fore-aft adjustment of seat and handlebar then up and down adjust of both as well. Some bikes only have handlebar adjustment up and down which is a big drawback.
|I agree...they need a fore/aft for handlebars (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Feb 26, 2003 11:55 AM
|re: Spinning bike||kelmeboyAZ|
Feb 25, 2003 9:15 PM
|I got the Lemond revmaster in December and love it immensely. It's super adjustable (5 adjustments-seat height, seat fore/aft, seat angle, bar height, bar fore/aft- that are all quick and easy), put my Koobi enduro saddle on and some Look 296's. It's very sturdy, beautiful fly-wheel and resistance mechanism, super smooth and quiet. I love it almost as much as my Look KG381i, well not really. But it was worth the grand I paid for it - looks pretty nice too! Highly recommend.|
Feb 26, 2003 12:40 PM
|My latest issue of Velonews has a pic of Tyler Hamilton's workout room and guess what's in it? A spinning bike. They are more stable and the flywheel does make a difference. Not sure it's worth $1 K, though.....|| |