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Oh comon,(20 posts)

Oh comon,african
Feb 24, 2003 1:30 PM
whats the big deal with putting ultegra on a colnago, I did it. And now I plan to put ultegra on my Fondriest TT team lampre bike.
re: Oh comon,eschelon
Feb 24, 2003 1:41 PM
That's the way I feel too...unless I got some doe burning a hole in my pocket it makes no sense to spend the money to get DuraAce. I just can't imagine how much of a difference using DuraAce could be on my steed.

However, there is definite difference in using 105s to Ultegra.
Try DuraAce, you might like it...Quack
Feb 24, 2003 2:30 PM
I used to think that way too until I actually upgraded an Ultegra bike to Dura-Ace. In my opinion, the majority of people preaching Ultegra's greatness as being equal to Dura-Ace haven't ridden well setup Dura-Ace bikes. The brakes and the front derailleur might be indistinguishable between the two but the DA shift levers are much smoother, cranks are stiffer, and rear derailleur is less sloppy than the Ultegra. But, I'm probably more picky about feel than most cyclists. Not because I'm elite or anything, but because I can't see dropping $1500 on a frame and then not going with the top of the line group. If you're content riding a bike that doesn't whisper in the wind and feel smooth as silk, why buy a top $$$ frame?? One thing I couldn't stomach was the extra $400-600 it would have cost to go to Record, even though the shifting would likely be even better than the DA.

My .02.

My problem with DAColnagoFE
Feb 24, 2003 3:39 PM
Shifted fine but one pet peeve is that I often braked accidentally when trying to shift to the big ring. I like the shifters and brakes separate.
true dat!nmthe bull
Feb 24, 2003 6:08 PM
Fiddler On The Roof...Akirasho
Feb 24, 2003 1:48 PM
...tradition.... TRADITION!

Be the bike.
No, no, the song in the bar...noveread
Feb 24, 2003 1:54 PM
Wrong song. "If I were a rich man"RickC5
Feb 24, 2003 2:17 PM
is the name of the song that applies here. I also have Ultegra groupos on both my road bikes and while I personally think that D-A looks a tad nicer, I can't justify the extra expense.
One word: MapeiGregory Taylor
Feb 24, 2003 2:18 PM
The Mapei team - that most Italian of squads (may they rest in peace) ran Colnagos with Shimano components.

Hmmmm.... Shimano on an Italian bike. Mapei. And now they're gone.

You may want to re-think this.
Another word: Rabobank.sacheson
Feb 24, 2003 3:17 PM
Italian bikes, Dura Ace. Picked up some good Classics fallout from Mapei.

Or how about another: Fassa Bartolo. Italian team, Italian bikes, Dura Ace.

Long live those who build a bike to their preferences, and not the preferences of others.
Fassa Bartolo!Iwannapodiumgirl
Feb 24, 2003 7:08 PM
Looks like Record for 2003 to me...
Check this out....Gregory Taylor
Feb 24, 2003 7:18 PM
Also from Cyclingnews...a 2003 team database. Riders, bikes and equipment. And yup, Fassa Bartolo is on Campy this year.
One down, a hundred or so to go...Iwannapodiumgirl
Feb 24, 2003 9:11 PM
Interesting to see if teams swap from Campag to Shimano?!
It is all about sponsorship: Shimano pays.Spunout
Feb 25, 2003 5:34 AM
Campagnolo is a smaller company, without a huge distribution network like shimano with their other product lines allowing better global marketing.
Of course money talks....Iwannapodiumgirl
Feb 25, 2003 2:16 PM
yet BS walks!
Could teams have an input into their equipment selection?
Looks like Campy 1-2-3 (nm)tmguy
Feb 25, 2003 9:14 AM
I am so, like, last year ...sacheson
Feb 25, 2003 12:03 PM
... next you're going to tell me mall bangs are out of style and my briefcase sized cell phone is out dated!

Thanks for the correction ... and I'm glad they got with the program.
re: Oh comon, update..african
Feb 24, 2003 7:45 PM
ok as I have an ultegra bottom bracket on allready, I think the Fondriest will get a mix of dura ace on ultegra parts. I most certainly don't want to start one of those flame wars between the campy and shimano fans, but I must do what I have to do and feel comfy with it.

Put it this way if dura ace is good enough for Lance it is probably too good for me. Anyway I have dura ace cranks and an ultegra front derailur so I just need a few more items. Thanks for all the input or output.
Question is why?russw19
Feb 24, 2003 9:47 PM
Why would you spend so much money to buy one of the finest frames on the market only to build it with components that are less than the best? I am not writting this to knock Ultegra, so before anyone tries to extol the virtues of the group on me, save it for another thread. But if you are shelling out money to buy a Colnago, you are obviously building that bike because it is one of the finest money can buy, right? Seems a waste of time to build it with anything but the best parts. That just seems very self defeating to me. Why not build with Dura-Ace? If Shimano meant for Ultegra to be the best, it would be, instead, it's the group below Dura-Ace. And for those of you who think there is no difference, BS. There is a difference and it's huge. Anyone who has riden both groups will tell you there is a difference, it's only those who own Ultegra will claim it is just as good. If you wanted to ride a run of the mill bike, why buy a Colnago? Why not show up at the group ride on an Ultegra equipped Trek OCLV? Those are some fine bikes! But if you are showing up at the group ride on a Colnago, you are trying to make a statement. It doesn't matter if you are trying to be subtle about it or not, you are saying to all your friends "look at my bike, it's the best on the market" but you can't say that with Ultegra. Drop the extra $300 on Dura-Ace and stand proud at the next group ride. You won't have to shout "look at me!" because your bike will do it for you. Then all you have to worry about is if your legs can back the statement once you pedal out of the parking lot.
Question is why?african
Feb 25, 2003 8:49 AM
You make a good point. Well it is too late for the Colnago as I put ultegra on it a while back. But I will put dura ace on the fondriest and then I can tell for myself.