|does anyone know WHY Armstrongs split?||cyclopathic|
Feb 23, 2003 1:15 AM
|besides "intuitive" assumption "he wants to ride his bike she wants him home" most riders on board relate to. Can it be "he is a jerk and I am sick of it" or "I am now famous I can do better"... or is it yet another OJ Simpson reincarnation?|
|re: does anyone know WHY Armstrongs split?||rdbkr|
Feb 23, 2003 4:35 AM
|One can only guess...there's got to be a tremendous amount of pressure on Lance as he prepares for this year's TDF. Given the current political situation, there's bound to be some serious anti-American sentiment all along the route.
I shudder to think of some wacko sitting in a tree w/ a high powered rifle...God forbid! It just seems way to easy for something terrible to happen. Perhaps this is foremost on Kristin's mind. Lance says he's determined to go on however, being well aware of the danger.
I'd like to see Lance win #5 (and #6) more than anyone. But I want to see him grow old with his kids too.
|re: wacko with rifle||cyclopathic|
Feb 23, 2003 7:19 AM
|I don't think that would be the case. There's a serious rift btw US administration and the rest of civilized world "on preemptive doctrine". Killing LA would turn him in martyr and give substantial "moral" support for the case.
More damage would be done if someone slips a bit of laxative in LA's food just like it was done to Garzelli last year Giro. That would be an end of LA carrier and cast shadow over his past victories
|rich superstar leaves wife - WHAT A SURPRISE!||saraspeed|
Feb 23, 2003 6:56 AM
|guys like to let us say -'go shopping'
when they find themselves rich and famous - shopping becomes more fun - would be my guess
remember that Limp Buscuizt song?
"I did for the nookie"
|You dont even have a clue!||BigLeadOutGuy|
Feb 23, 2003 8:43 AM
|If I get my lance facts correctly, he was already a rich and famous world championship winning bike racer well before he and his wife met. So maybe it was her, enthralled with the fact of marrying an millionaire bike racer that caught her fancy. then she realized that there wasnt much glory in that because the poor guy has to spend 6 hours a day on his bike in order to be the champion that he is. As any racer will understand, we have to spend an extrodinary amount of time on the bike to be competitive and it usually drives our wives or girlfriends crazy cause they think we love our bikes more then them, when if fact we love winning much more than we do training and we will sacrifice alot of things in our life in order to put ourselves in a position to win races....this is something only a racer will understand.
either that or maybe its due to their difference in fundamental belifs. Lance doesnt beleive in god and his wife is very religious.
but what the hell do I know? I know nothing on their situation as does any of us.
|Actually, YOU'RE CLUELESS, MEN ARE AS FAITHFUL AS||Lazywriter|
Feb 23, 2003 9:42 AM
|their options. How could his wife be angry about the time he spends on training??? She knows what his job is and that her lifestyle is dependent upon his job. Plus what other man in this world will only need to work for another 2-3 years and retire at 34 years old?????? He'll have plenty of time to be home with her then. Other than infidelity or the desire to be with others really only seems like a big enough reason to cause a split.
Stop with that bullsh$% that it is his time away that is causing the break. Odds are he is changing as his status grows. The other guy said it, rich superstar leaves wife , what a surprise. MEN ARE AS FAITHFUL AS THEIR OPTIONS.
Feb 23, 2003 10:14 AM
|Men are as faithful as they want to be. It's a choice. There's not a man on the planet who has no options, short of Stephen Hawking, maybe.
If you choose to be faithful, you will be. That's all there is to it.
|yup...all you gotta do is keep it in your pants (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Feb 24, 2003 8:12 AM
Feb 24, 2003 12:12 PM
|agree entirely with Doug here, faithfulness is a choice.
But note that Stephen Hawking divorced his wife for his secretary decades after being confined to a wheelchair..
|MEN ARE AS FAITHFUL AS THEIR OPTIONS.||bic|
Feb 23, 2003 10:17 AM
|based on this and your past statement that you have been in a 16 year relationship guess that tells us what your options are.|
|MEN ARE AS FAITHFUL AS THEIR OPTIONS.||Lazywriter|
Feb 23, 2003 10:43 AM
|I never said I was perfect but I choose to not complicate my life. I have no trouble getting women when I want to, but I am monogamous not becuase I don't have the urge, but rather I don't want the drama in my life. I always tell my girlfriend who I would like to bang which gets it out of my system. But if I were suddenly thrust into a jet set lifestyle with daily temptations, I suspect I would falter. Plus we watch a lot of porno. LOL Let's see you christian fundamentalist dues like Doug pull that off. LMFAO|
|lazywriter is as faithful as his options||weiwentg|
Feb 23, 2003 3:22 PM
|and given the amount of vitriol he spews, I suspect his options are severely limited.|
|Not really, but he does have to go to Lubbock, TX||SnowBlind|
Feb 23, 2003 3:47 PM
|to get lucky.|
|LOL, I am beautiful. Who wants to see a real picture of me????||Lazywriter|
Feb 23, 2003 3:50 PM
|We'll call this the uniballer theory. nm||Sintesi|
Feb 23, 2003 9:31 AM
|Doesn't Lance have a reputation for being a very hard driving||Uprwstsdr|
Feb 23, 2003 8:49 AM
|type A person, always on the go, pushing hard? Perfect attributes for a competitive athlete, but not necesarily ideal for a relationship.|
Feb 23, 2003 9:19 AM
|*she likes Taco Bell -- he weighs his food on gram counter
*she hates France (well, maybe he does, too)
*3 kids are wearing both of them out (I can empathize)
*she doesn't like to travel -- he must
*she liked his "surviver" personality (right after cancer) more than his "alpha dog" one
*she's wanting to cash out on half the wealth
*he wants more kids -- she's done
*she doesn't like his mom
*they spend too much time apart
*he's from Mars, she's from Venus...
We could go on all day. Even if we see a press release, it likely still won't be the "true" reasons, assuming *they* even know.
|Mr. Sloan, you forgot one...||seyboro|
Feb 23, 2003 9:24 AM
|She likes Campy, he rides Shimano.|
Feb 23, 2003 9:30 AM
|How many marriages have fallen victim to that old chestnut?|
|Yeah, but that should have been in the prenupt. nm||Kristin|
Feb 23, 2003 11:14 AM
|Another one||no excuses|
Feb 24, 2003 5:14 AM
|He rides a double, she wants a triple.|
|Where are you guys getting this?||benito|
Feb 23, 2003 9:57 AM
|Where did you find this out?|
|Where are you guys getting this?||funknuggets|
Feb 23, 2003 10:29 AM
Period of Separation for Lance and His Wife
Armstrong announces split from wife
From: AFP - Saturday, February 22, 2003
AUSTIN, Texas - Four-time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong announced Saturday he was separating from his wife Kristin after four and a half years of marriage.
"We're looking to sort out some delicate questions in the way that we've confronted other obstacles in our life - together and with determination and commitment," the couple, who have three children, told Saturday's edition of the American-Stateman.
"It's possible that we'll have a period of separation so as to reflect on our relationship and work to protect the interests of our family and our children," they added.
The 31-year-old US Postal rider, who has overcome testicular cancer and who made a particular point of sharing the Tour de France podium each year with Kristin and his children, leaves his home state of Texas on Monday for Spain and the start of a new season which will centre on a fifth consecutive Tour de France crown.
|Isn't your question kind of stupid?||Spoiler|
Feb 23, 2003 10:50 AM
|Unless you think their marriage councelor or some close family members are going to share their inside information, the only possible replies are intuitive assumptions and the occasional ravings of a maniac like Lazy.
You will find several quotes from Lance saying holds his family as a higher priority than racing.
|in a way||cyclopathic|
Feb 23, 2003 11:10 AM
|any question is stupid, don't you agree?
I agree we may never find the reason. Even close to family would be bias and have different views and supporting stories to tell. Kinda he says she says.
However LA enjoys the celebrity status, so there will be paparazzis digging around, and there always circumstantial evidence, rumors, old news something slipped off the tongue etc etc etc. Don't give up hope yet.
|in a way||Spoiler|
Feb 23, 2003 11:38 AM
|I didn't mean to say you're stupid for wanting to know the reasons why. People look up to him and her. It's a tough balance between their right to privacy and people's curiousity. If there's unscrupulous reasons, you may want to know before you go around telling people about how Lance is such a successful family man, one to be looked up to.
I would like to know if they work the problems out. It gives hope to other people who have marrital problems. But I think I'd wait for them to disclose the information. I wouldn't want media digging around and disclosing info they want to keep private.
Feb 23, 2003 5:14 PM
|taken not to worry. With respect to real life and sugar coated public projection it is hard to live up to expectations it quite often comes back and hunts you.
With respect to media digging around this was their choice. They decided to cash in and go for celebrity status /noone really cared about Greg's wife/ and this is the price to pay. You can't seriously expect to make millions writing autobiographies, use every opportunity to get your face on TV and then get upset with people sticking nose in your personal life.
Metaphorically speaking 15$ you spent buying "it's not about the bike" is your ticket to watch drama don't feel guilty about it.
|I see it as just her wanting him home||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
Feb 23, 2003 11:08 AM
|He's won 4 TDF's at the expense of missing his kids grow up. After all LA has been through I don't see him giving off the I'm rich and get better vibe. Kristin isn't a bad looking woman and they met at probly the hardest time in his life. That alone has to mean a ton.
My 2 cents,
|Wish them the best.||farmerfrank|
Feb 23, 2003 11:15 AM
|We have to be all thankful for Lance's accomplishments and being a role model in different ways to all of us. His comeback has been unbelieveable. We tend to forget that although he rides his bike almost machine-like, Lance is human like the rest of us. Wish the Armstrongs the best...they deserve our words of encouragement.
Feb 23, 2003 12:46 PM
|This series of threads is amazing!.........||Len J|
Feb 23, 2003 12:45 PM
|READ MY LIPS........No one on this board has any facts to support any of out theories about why they are having marital problems!
No one on this board (I would guess) knows them personally and intimatly enough to understand either thier motivations for marrying in the first place or what is underlying their current problems. It could be any of the theories expounded, or it could be none, it could be as simple as her wanting him home or as complicated as one or both of them wanting to come out of the closet. The truth is we don't know. In their press release they asked for privacy and prayers as they attempted to work out their problems. Those of us who have been in real, honest, long term relationships know that it is not ever always wonderful, that as each of the partners change and grow, each partner has to change & accomodate (or decide not to) the others "newness". Let's give them some space & wish them the best.
Instead, we have people convinced it's about him being away too much, or that it's about infidelity (Men are only as faithful as their options! I love gross generalizations, especially when they are so obviously projections) or any number of possibilities backed by nothing but pure conjecture. For god sakes people, it could be that she just doesn't like Lance's Mother. WE DON'T KNOW!
Let's give it a rest!
End of rant.
|Amen Brother! nm||MB1|
Feb 23, 2003 1:18 PM
|Thank You:You would think this was a forum for soaps!!!!'nm'||tmotz|
Feb 23, 2003 1:21 PM
|Len, this is not entirely true||cyclopathic|
Feb 23, 2003 4:06 PM
|LA had been known to visit this board.
with respect to rant yes people tend to be nosy, they worship celebrities, have no respect to privacy, like to gossip blah-blah-blah. "Noone really lost any money underestimating taste of american public"
|Great post Len||gregario|
Feb 23, 2003 5:03 PM
|I was thinking of addressing this issue. I would say it's none of our damn business, we have no way of knowing, and to sit here and speculate is ridiculous and very disturbing to say the least. I sincerely hope that they work things out whatever the "things" may be and that they stay together forever and have happy children. I hate to see marriages break up but if one or both parties have a legitimate beef then so be it. As a person who lived in a home where the parents stayed together for "the sake of the children" I can tell you it's no picnic
End of story. Shall we move on?
|Does anybody CARE????!!!! I don't!!!! (nm)||Alexx|
Feb 23, 2003 1:31 PM
|He's a freaking self-centered homo.||unchained|
Feb 23, 2003 1:40 PM
|(Besides being a great and revolutionary rider).
Does it really matter why? Then somebody call Barbara Walters for crying out loud!
|Warning! Homophobic Jerk posting!!||Alexx|
Feb 24, 2003 5:46 AM
|relax, his post isn't about LA's or yours sexuality nm||cyclopathic|
Feb 24, 2003 6:27 AM
|Podium girls? nm||DASS|
Feb 23, 2003 5:11 PM
|Interesting subject, but its none of our business. -nm||Tig|
Feb 23, 2003 6:38 PM
|WHAT A SAD AND LAME DISCUSSION....... NM||CARBON110|
Feb 24, 2003 4:51 AM
|on a contrary it IS our business||cyclopathic|
Feb 24, 2003 6:23 AM
|and it comes with "celebrity" status. People quite amaze me they jump out of pants to become famous, get their face on TV, magazine cover; make millions selling autobiographies and then they suddenly get upset when public sticks nose in their "private life". Get a grip. You made your choice and you can't have it both ways.|
|..uhh, he just rides a bike. I don't follow media/celebrity. nm||Spunout|
Feb 24, 2003 7:20 AM
Feb 24, 2003 9:01 AM
|I don't see why people are speculating that its because he spends 6 hours on the bike daily. How many men are out working 8 to 10 hours a day?
ps. I liked Saiz's comments on the tour.
|good comment thnx nm||cyclopathic|
Feb 24, 2003 9:48 AM
|re: does anyone know WHY Armstrongs split?||rbol52|
Feb 24, 2003 9:29 AM
|The only people who KNOW are the Armstrong's themselves. Life's tough enough for most of us and separation/divorce is one of the worst experiences people can go through. Until they decide to discuss details, back off, leave it alone and stop speculating.|
|straight from the horse's mouth...||DougSloan|
Feb 24, 2003 10:20 AM
|From Lance's website:
2/24 ~ By now you probably have heard that last week Lance and Kristin announced that they have separated and LA is now on his way to Europe to begin the 2003 season. If you hadn't, or thought that it was just rumor, we have the article with the Press Release from the Austin American Statesman HERE... in addition, Lance wants everyone to know that, "My focus will now be 3-fold: my children, my job (something to do with a bike), and the fight against cancer."
While we appreciate most of the comments and well wishes in the LA.com guestbook, we would like everyone to please respect the privacy of the Armstrongs in this very trying and personal time. Thanks for your support and understanding, we'll keep everyone up to date as the family desires...
|guess it used to be a 4-fold focus||ColnagoFE|
Feb 24, 2003 1:55 PM
|sounds like the big D for sure...he mentioned nothing about the wife.|
|even if inadvertent, it kind of tells you something nm||DougSloan|
Feb 24, 2003 2:24 PM
|Two people trying to work things out individually...||Quack|
Feb 24, 2003 12:28 PM
|Not an Earth-shattering concept. I'm sure if we knew the true reasons behind the split, they wouldn't be front page on the Enquirer. How many of us married folk have been separated from our spouses while stuff gets sorted out? I'm definitely one of them. It should be no suprise that a couple with as much going on as the Armstrongs would hit a hurdle.
If I were to guess what's going on, I would say that she is probably feeling unappreciated and taken for granted. Lance is probably just doing the "guy thing" that 90% of men do and going on with obsessive individual pursuits (fishing, football, cycling) without seriously looking at the long-term consequences to his marriage. They'll either work it out or they'll bail. If they're like 50-60% of the rest of the US Citizens, they'll bail and likely mess up their kids' lives in the process. It's all about what you can do for ME you know.
Many of you multiple divorcees or never-marrieds will say that she knew what she was getting into and it's unrealistic that she wants more, but what she probably wants is the same amount. Lance wasn't really the Lance we know when they met. She went from business professional in love with a racer to mother of his kids and lower-priority when he became cycling God of the Universe.
I hope they work it out!