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Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?(15 posts)

Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?Franchise
Feb 21, 2003 4:46 PM
Everyone,

I have just been greeted by the FedEx man, with my new frameset. I was trying to choose between carbon fiber(Giant Composite and Trek 5900), and an ultra-light aluminum frameset(DeRosa UD, Pegoretti CCKMP), and I made a decision on the flip of a coin last week, along with a sale at competitivecyclist.com, and bought a new "Bice" Pegoretti CCKMP. This bike will be my climbing bike, and I am looking for suggestions on build up ideas. I already have some Zipp 303 Tubulars to slap on. All my bikes are Campagnolo 10 speed, and I need some suggestions on pedals, cages, saddles, etc.

Any feedback would be appreciated! Thanks!

Franchise
Time mag Impact pedals of course.Sintesi
Feb 22, 2003 9:30 AM
Elite Patao cage w/ those silly bajiji bottles. Fizik Aliante saddle coupled with a Thompson set back seatpost. Look carbon stem and Kestrel carbon bars. Top off w/ color coordinated Salsa Ti skewers. Might as well keep up the blue ribbon treatment throughout the whole bike. ;)

Happy riding, that's a beautiful bike.
Time mag Impact pedals of course.Franchise
Feb 22, 2003 10:49 AM
Sintesi,

Thanks for the recommendations. I never thought about the Patao cages. I really like the look of them! So, you're a fan of the Time Mag Impact Pedals, eh? I am considering those as well as the Shimano(Lance) pedal, and Campagnolo Record Pro-fits(compatible with Ergobrain).

Why Time Impact Mag pedals?
Honestly, no other reason than I think they look good.Sintesi
Feb 22, 2003 4:56 PM
I have Pro-fits on mine and they're a great pedals. The ergo brain cadence feature is nice too. Happy accessorizing. Let us know how it rides when you get it decked out. I was always impressed with their steel bikes. The Marcelo was a great frame that I used to pine for.
Honestly, no other reason than I think they look good.Franchise
Feb 22, 2003 9:16 PM
Sintesi,

Thanks for the input. I'll let you know how it rides when the build up is done. The Marcelo is great from what I've heard so far. I decided to go with the CCKMP because I may go for a custom steel bike down the road, and I wanted to build up a light,stiff rig tihs time around.

Franchise
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?Berm
Feb 22, 2003 4:45 PM
I just got this frame about 3 weeks ago. Mine was also an '02 on sale. This is my second Pegoretti. My first is a Fina Estampa. The CCKMP is very responsive and stiff. Mine is built up with Campy record, Campy record pedals, and American Classic 420 wheels.
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?Franchise
Feb 22, 2003 9:19 PM
Berm,

Glad to hear someone else took advantage of the old closeouts! Are you worried at all about the durability of U2 tubing? Also, as fat as stiffness, how would you rate it. I like a lot of stiffness in the bottom bracket area. Does the CCKMP provide sufficient rigidness in the bottom bracket as well as the chainstays? Thanks.

Franchise

Post a pic if you have time. I'd love to see what mine will look like when I'm done.
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?ASiegel993
Feb 22, 2003 11:11 PM
Hey. Congrats on buying a frame frmo what I consider to be the world's finest framebuilders. I own a Fina Estampa, and I'll just say this... you need Campy on this bike.

I know my bike came with the WR Compositi post... if you've got that on there already, perfect.

I would suggest, since it's such a lightweight frame, that you spend the extra money and go for all lightweight parts. A Selle Italia SLR or Fizik Aliante saddle is in line, as is a magnesium stem and some lightweight bars. Hell, you could go super-cool and get some Stella Azzura bars and stem. The Zipp's will be perfect. Pedals... go with Time Impact Mag Ti or Campy Record Pro-Fits. Just go all out man, that bike is more than deserving.

Enjoy.
-Siegel
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?Franchise
Feb 23, 2003 10:03 AM
Siegel,

Thanks for the suggestions. I think I will go all out on this one. I don't have an ultralight bike as of yet. What exactly is the WR Compositi post? I don't have one, but what is it and why do you enjoy it?

Glad to hear you like you Fina Estampa. I've heard good things about that framset as well. I too consider Pegoretti to be one of the best framebuilders. Good enough for Tour champs....good enough for me!

I like the idea of Stella Azzura bar/stem combo, but where can I get them? Thanks again!

Franchise
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?Berm
Feb 23, 2003 7:32 AM
I was/am slightly worried about the durability. From what I have been told, Dario uses slightly thicker U2 tubes then most builders. Also, I am only 154 pounds and I can't imagine that I could put so much stress on any frame so as to cause it to fail. A serious crash, however, is another story. But isn't this the case with virtually any racing frame.

For me, a huge plus was the fit. Pegoretti frames fit me perfect and the taller head tube lets me go with only 5mm of spacers.

In terms of stiffness in the bottem bracket area and in the chainstays, I cannot flex the frame at all. My perception is that this frame is stiffer and accelerates faster then my Fina Estampa but that the Fina Estampa has a greater damping effect. The CCKMP is a good climbing bike but you will be short changing yourself if you make this just a "climbing bike."

Use this frame for all your rides. For what you and I paid for our '02s, ride the heck out of it and then get an '04 or '05 on closeout and do it again.

Lastly, I must be the only guy without a digital camera. If I can get ahold of one, I will post the picture of both the CCKMP and the Fina Estamp (although Fina Estampa is just down to a frame as I took most of the components off of it to build up the CCKMP.

Let me know if you have any more questions. Also, post your comments after you have some miles under your bike.
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?Franchise
Feb 23, 2003 10:07 AM
Berm,

Good call about building this one up and getting an '04 on closeout. Since the Pegoretti frames have the head tube extension, I can actually have no spacers beneath my stem, so again, Pegoretti is doing something right with its geometry. Thanks again for your feedback. Now that I know about the CCKMP's stiffness and efficiency, I think that this bike will serve as, not only a climbing bike, but also a racing and stage racing rig.

How much did yours weigh? I weighed mine with a digital bathroom scale, and it showed 3.2lbs for the frame/fork for a size 56cm. Thanks again for the feedback. The guys at the shop compared Pegoretti to a micro-brew. I think that they are correct, and these are bikes for the cycling afficionados that enjoy the work of true craftsmen.

Franchise
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?Berm
Feb 23, 2003 2:06 PM
I never weighed mine but it sure is light. As the guys at the shop said, "The bubble wrap weighs more than the frame." The build quality is first rate and I am a big fan of the replaceable hanger and it saved my Fina Estampa when I was taken down during a sprint.

The WR Compositi seatpost on the Fina Estampa is the same seatpost used on the Pinarello Prince. I believe it is a 32.4. I personally am not a big fan of the post as the saddle slips in it. Also, the post is very expensive to buy on its own. I prefer the simplicity of a Campy post.

My last bit of advice is just because the frame is very light don't feel obligated to make the bike stupid light.
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?Franchise
Feb 23, 2003 4:45 PM
Berm,

Thanks again. I would agree that the frame is light. The packaging/bubble wrap was fairly heavy in comparison. I have a Pinarello Prince, and I like the seatpost that came with it.

I won't make it stupid light, with a downtube shifter for the front der., but I will likely use Record/Chorus 10spd, Zipp 303 Tubulars, Tacx Patao cages, Ded Newton Bar/Stem, and probably an SLR saddle.

I'll post pics as soon as I build it up!

Franchise
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?ASiegel993
Feb 23, 2003 7:18 PM
Franchise,

The WR Compositi I suggested solely because it came with my bike. The reason that I suggested it is that I was under the impression that it was the post spec'ed by Pegoretti and the only one that would fit with the oversized seat tube. I don't know if the CCKMP requires this as well. I've had no problems, but I agree, it probably isn't cheap. Mine just came with the build (in place of a Thompson).

For Stella Azzura, you can go to www.worldcycling.com. They're incredibly expensive, but damn they're cool.

Berm,
I have a digital camera and can post a pic of my Fina if you'd like. It's the Ayers Rock paint scheme. Let me know.

-Siegel
re: Pegoretti CCKMP Frameset! Any Suggestions on buildup?Franchise
Feb 23, 2003 7:47 PM
Seigel,

Thanks. I think that the CCKMP can accept a seat post of 27.2. It's great that the WR Compsiti came with your build. Little cf bits are always nice!

Franchise