|Thoughts on Tufo Tires||jromack|
Feb 17, 2003 11:51 AM
|I stumbled across their website the other day. Nobody in my circle of cyclists have ever used this type of tire (combination tubular/clincher).
Has anybody had any experience with them?
|re: Thoughts on Tufo Tires||mosovich|
Feb 17, 2003 2:08 PM
|I use them for cyclocross, their great. A little heavier than normal tubular tires, but will give you the feel of a tubular.|
|Mixed reviews at best||Kerry|
Feb 17, 2003 5:08 PM
|I assume you are talking about the "clinchular" that mounts a sew up tire on a clincher rim by having a molded "bead" on the tubular. The hit is that they are heavy and stiff due to their design, and therefore don't give the "benefits" of tubulars, including the possibility of using lighter rims. Also, some have had trouble with mounting. The concept has been around for nearly 20 years and never become popular. Like any other concept, you will find strong advocates, but in the case of these unique tires, not many. Tufo (true) tubulars are quite popular in cyclocross.|
|Thanks for the responses||jromack|
Feb 17, 2003 5:11 PM
|I kind of figured they aren't that great or else the major players would be stocking them...|
|re: Thoughts on Tufo Tires||cxer|
Feb 17, 2003 10:57 PM
|You guessed wrong if you think they aren't good tires. They are great tires and the only critics I ever read are ones that obviously haven't used them.
Cyclocrossers use both the tubular and tubular/clinchers. TUFO isn't a big name sponsor so they can't keep up with Michelin and Vittoria with ad dollars but they are quietly making some of the finest tires out there.
The tubular/clinchers are great. They ride like tubies with none of the hassles. 350tpi, over 200psi and they roll like the best tubies out there. Yes, they are heavier than a tubular setup but you don't have the glue-up and you don't need different wheel setups. This is great for people that have always used and have clincher wheels.
|re: Thoughts on Tufo Tires||jromack|
Feb 18, 2003 10:36 AM
|What pressure can I run on my Ksyriums? I know th emaximum on conventional clinchers is around 145PSI.|
|Here's some data||Kerry|
Feb 18, 2003 4:16 PM
|I know you are passionate about the Tufo "clinchulars" and that you will jump on anyone who does not personally use them, but after the last exchange on this topic, I asked a large number of cyclo-crossers about their local race scene's use of these tires. They agreed that lots of people used the Tufo tubulars, and they said hardly anyone used the clinchulars. When I asked them why, they all cited the reasons I gave above. You'll disagree vehemently, and call me names (like the last time) but there it is.|
|didn't like the clinchers||DougSloan|
Feb 18, 2003 4:40 PM
|I've used the clincher/tubulars and the tubulars.
The tubulars are fine, especially with the sealant injected to help prevent flats. They are fairly light, too.
However, the clinchers are another thing. I got some cheap, so I tried them. This is what I found:
1. They are as heavy as a heavy duty ordinary clincher, like a Gatorskin, plus a tube, but not as puncture resistant as a Gatorskin.
2. They are harder to mount than a regular clincher, maybe 4-5 times as long.
3. You can't replace tube like a clincher, so you must carry a whole tire(s) for flats.
---If you are going to carry a whole tire for a spare, why the heck not just use tubulars and save a 100 grams or so (rim and tire)?
---This also makes them more expensive than clinchers if you flat, as you can't replace a $5 tube.
I just don't understand the clincher/tubulars. They have the worst aspects of both clinchers and tubulars, that is, heavy like clinchers, but needing a spare tire like tubulars. The only justification I can see is if you have only clincher rims and want really high pressures. However, pressures that high probably aren't very useful. Maybe one other thing -- you could probably run them flat better than you could a standard clincher. I'm not going to do that, anyway.
I tried riding them without carrying a whole spare. I got stranded with about a 1/8" cut that would not seal. Not good.