|POLL: Where was your last component purchase made?||Kristin|
Feb 13, 2003 8:26 AM
|Was your component purchase (excluding frames) made at:
A) Your LBS
C) Large bike shop chain
If you answered A.
Did you compare prices online first?
Did you pay more at the LBS than you would have online?
|I bought a pair of brake pads at a LBS on the way home.||MB1|
Feb 13, 2003 8:33 AM
|I didn't compare prices but I am sure I paid more for the pads and tax than I would have on line including shipping.
OTOH I had Miss M's bike back on the road the same day.
We buy on line by plan, at the LBS as needed. By $ we must spend about 95% of our bike money on-line.
|Agreed. There are definately times when having it now||Kristin|
Feb 13, 2003 9:00 AM
|is what counts. I've also paid more for an item at the LBS than I would have online when it was a one time purchase and needed to be installed...like when I bought my stem.|
|the LAST component purchase was at the LBS, actually...||funknuggets|
Feb 13, 2003 8:35 AM
|Got a stem. Only paid about a dollar more than I would have paid online plus shipping. Plus, I got to examine it first and best of all got it right away.
Did Gregg put you up to this???
|REI and Nashbar-- but I tried to interest the small LBS first||retro|
Feb 13, 2003 8:39 AM
|I bought a chain from REI and a road handlebar from Nashbar, but only after all three local shops struck out. I went in and told them what I wanted. Two guys sort of shrugged and the third told me I didn't REALLY want an 8-speed chain, I wanted to upgrade my $150 commuter to 10-speed. Bye-bye.|
|These are the shops your defending in your post below?||Kristin|
Feb 13, 2003 9:02 AM
|They don't deserve to be in business.|
|WebCyclery - but they are my LBS, 2 doors down. (nm)||TwoCircles Tim|
Feb 13, 2003 8:40 AM
|re: POLL: Where was your last component purchase made?||mainframe|
Feb 13, 2003 8:45 AM
|Recent build-up on my Look included some parts from my LBS, some from Excel Sports.|
|Do you consider a Performance Retail Store a LBS?||Fez|
Feb 13, 2003 9:05 AM
|I think there are more Performance stores in my area than any other bike shop.
The retail stores have decent selections of clothes, energy bars, accessories, tires and tubes.
But any time I need a component, I pretty much know I have to order it because it won't be in stock.
I've pretty much accepted paying $10+ for shipping every time I order. I just try to hold off and get my stuff once a month.
|Brake pads and install at Gotham [LBS] for the onespeed. (nm)||onespeed|
Feb 13, 2003 8:49 AM
|Last component: Excel, last purchase: biketoolsetc.com (nm)||LactateIntolerant|
Feb 13, 2003 8:49 AM
|C - Performance (local shop)||Humma Hah|
Feb 13, 2003 8:51 AM
|I hate doing it, but I gave the locally-owned LBS more chances than enough, and they never got a single thing right, so I finally gave up on them.|
|A, no, yes (but I don't care) nm||mwood|
Feb 13, 2003 8:54 AM
|explanation: needed chain for that day's ride...||mwood|
Feb 13, 2003 9:13 AM
|But, if prices are even close,I'll give business to my LBS. They're good guys, organize fun rides and help me out when I'm in a pinch.|
|re: POLL: Where was your last component purchase made?||rogue_CT1|
Feb 13, 2003 8:57 AM
|Ksyrium SL wheelset from Bicyledoctor.net
Campagnolo Full Ti Cassette from Totalcycling.com
Handlebar tape from Totalcycling.com
Sidi Energy 2 from Totalcycling.com
Carbon Fiber crankset from CarbonLord.com
Wipperman Connex chain from LBS
Jeez, that's alot of stuff. Hope my wife doesn't find out!
|Online, Pricepoint.com, cable cutters 1/2 LBS price||OldEdScott|
Feb 13, 2003 8:57 AM
|LBS, only because i have a gift certificate. otherwise online nm||JS Haiku Shop|
Feb 13, 2003 8:57 AM
|SpinDoctors in Bartlett Il.||PEDDLEFOOT|
Feb 13, 2003 9:15 AM
|Might have payed slightly higher than an online but the small extra cost is made up ten fold by teir excellent service.|
|wondered if anybody lived there||JS Haiku Shop|
Feb 13, 2003 9:49 AM
|i've passed through bartlett, IL numerous times en route to st. charles from o'hare. seemed like a quaint suburb. like it?|
|Very nice community....||PEDDLEFOOT|
Feb 13, 2003 9:57 AM
|...I live in neighboring Streamwood but very much the same.|
|SpinDr. ride ?||MR_GRUMPY|
Feb 13, 2003 10:37 AM
|Have you ever done the ride out of the Spin Doctor shop on Tues. and Thurs. in the summer?|
|SpinDr. ride ?||PEDDLEFOOT|
Feb 13, 2003 10:55 AM
|No those guys are a little too much for me.There might be a smaller rec ride from there this summer on Tues.nights.|
|Can you say whooooosh?||Kristin|
Feb 13, 2003 11:08 AM
|I know some guys who ride with them and I hear the ride is scary fast. Kind of like a Flyers ride. That's that sound they make as they go buy my on the road.|
Feb 13, 2003 11:26 AM
|When the ride starts next month, it only averages about 18-19. It picks up in April and May to 21-22 average. By the 1st of May, if you can't hang, you're on your own.|
|I race for them . Great Shop. Great guys.||greg n|
Feb 13, 2003 11:36 AM
|I've been with Spin Doctor since they opened -- 6 years or so. We started out as a mt. bike team, but that slowly fizzled out over the years. Now, I'm with a newly formed road team, Project 5 Racing. Spin Doctor is our Shop sponsor. Ted and Greg, the owners, are great guys. Service and customer attention and satisfaction are they're #1 priorities.
When I lived and worked closer to the Shop, I used to do the Tues. and Thurs. rides. They were decent interval and sprint workouts.
I guess this last year, there were some first-timers and newbies that were discouraged by the pace. So, Greg, one of the owners, is going to be going on the rides this year to lead a second group for those who don't want to mix it up with the "hammerheads."
Check them out if you ever have the chance.
|They seem pretty nice.||MR_GRUMPY|
Feb 13, 2003 11:43 AM
|I usually mix it up with the hammerheads, although I have been known to not always been able to hang. Usually, that's when a bunch of 3's show up. That's when it's tough for an "old guy" to hang on.|
Feb 13, 2003 2:07 PM
|For our shop ride, the biggest hammerhead is the shop owner. The guy is just sick.
|LBS: Ada Bike Shop in Ada, MI||dave11|
Feb 13, 2003 9:26 AM
|I buy everyting there. Yes their prices are slightly higher but service makes up for it. I don't have time to screw around looking for prices on the internet all day to save 10 bucks, and then have to wait for stuff.|
|LBS, needed the retracted seat post right at the very moment||ZvierBoy|
Feb 13, 2003 9:30 AM
|last purchase: Performance; last component buy: LBS||_rt_|
Feb 13, 2003 9:30 AM
|just bought a Wrenchforce workstand from Performance. significantly cheaper than anywhere else since i had ~$100 in team performance points. i didn't even look at LBS prices for the workstand.
last component purchase: crank bolts from my LBS. they've done a ton of work for me on short notice so i felt it was the least i could do. i probably spent the same as i would have online since i'd have had to pay shipping for an online purchase.
that said, most of my other recent component purchases were made from Perf/Nashbar etc.
|re: Buying bike stuff||Fredrico|
Feb 13, 2003 9:32 AM
|Bought gloves and helmet at Performance Bikes, part of the chain. But, hey, that's one LBS.
Bought Conti 700x28C tires at another local bike shop, not part of a chain. The owner straightened a fork for me awhile back. He has a little bit of everything. Continental tires have always been the same price at the LBS as mail order, so I buy them from the LBS.
Have always preferred to buy clothing at LBS, although once bought Voler bib shorts on-line, after reading about them here.
Have no choice, mostly, but to mail order components for my ancient bikes. Recently acquired a 6 speed freewheel from Boston, a nice out of date saddle from London, brake pads from Connecticut, brake hoods from California.
It's great having so many options. Although you can find anything you want on the internet, prices aren't always cheaper than bike shops, if you include shipping and credit card interest. You gotta throw a little money at the LBS or they won't be there for you.
|Can of worms is now open............||cydswipe|
Feb 13, 2003 9:33 AM
|I've been pretty fortunate in the last 14 mos(Thanks eBay!)
1999 Trek Y-Foil 66t, Speedplay X-2 pedals, Nike Poggios, 5 jeseys, 5 shorts, Vetta rt88 wireless, Aero bars, Aqua rack, Park workstand, Giro Pneumo, gloves, tire pump, Camelback bladder, handlebar bag, Kelme winter coat, Izumi shoe covers, arm warmers, leg warmers, Gore-Tex pants, Rolf MTB rims, MTB suspension fork, copy of Zinn's, and assorted tools. ALL of these online. The ONLY part I bought at the LBS was a computer mount for my aerobars. I watch online sales closely. I use classifieds from this site. I use eBay a lot too. I try to get the most "bang" for my dollar. I hate to be the one "jerk" who doesn't utilize the LBS. In my own defense, I have sent several new customers there way. I try to teach myself how to wrench. I know where to go if I need help. I don't know how online places get things so cheap. Bulk discount, whatever. I simply have to do what works best for me in order to continue cycling. My LBS' won't price match. In fact, I got my Rolf's and fork shipped to my door for $125 less than the rims alone at the LBS.
|TX Cyclesports (nm)||terry b|
Feb 13, 2003 9:41 AM
|Excel, but it depends||lonefrontranger|
Feb 13, 2003 10:10 AM
|Not only is Excel a sponsor of our team and very convenient for me to ride by and drop into, but they also usually have what I want.
However, I have a pattern:
* Frames, kit wheels, grouppos, i.e. big-ticket items: Maestro-UK. I can get the high-dollar items cheaper than U.S. wholesale at their retail prices, even considering shipping. This is also stuff your LBS typically has a very small profit margin on, incidentally. Biggest margins are on repairs, clothing and small stuff.
* Bits and pieces, impulse buys (shoes!): Excel
* Any really fiddly repairs I can't do myself (frame prep, etc.): Vecchio's in Boulder. I would also use them for wheel builds and pay their premium dollar to have it done right. I spent about $150 extra at their retail to get some custom bits for my 'cross bike, but it was more than worth it to have Peter spec the right parts knowing they would be flawlessly compatible. This is a significant issue with the Frankenbuilds one must utilise for a 'cross spec. Someone will eventually fulfill the niche market for a dedicated 'cross groupset that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
* I do surf Ebay and have bought the odd bits from there, but it has to be a spectacular deal. FWIW, Ebay can be a superb source for high-end kit wheels at about 60% of retail, assuming you are willing to risk the auction angle.
|All component purchases online unless it's an ememgency.||Ken of Fresno|
Feb 13, 2003 10:17 AM
|Local prices are too high (on most items), and the service has often been less than acceptable. I'm still waiting for a fairly common part that I ordered over 2 months ago. That's no way to keep customers. I will drop in and pick up a few things now and then, but the local shops are not my first choice.|
|LBS: got last years model Specialized shoes at closeout rack (nm||joekm|
Feb 13, 2003 10:19 AM
Feb 13, 2003 10:31 AM
|I had to pick up 3 rolls of bar tape and a spare Dura Ace chain, so I drove down to the Naperville Performance Bike shop. I also ended up with a long sleeve polypro shirt and a few Mich. tubes also.|
|Hey, do you ride down in that area?||Kristin|
Feb 13, 2003 11:15 AM
|I'm looking for a club in the Naperville/Aurora area. Something thats neither casual nor ultra. Any suggestions? The only clubs I know about so far are Fox Valley--which I'll probably check out--and Spokes.|
Feb 13, 2003 11:36 AM
|No, I'm from the Schaumburg area. I'm afraid that I can't help you with club rides down there.
It's hard to find a group of riders that go the same pace as you like. It seems like riders fall into the pokey, or the fast range. Sometimes, on Sundays without a race, my group goes for 50-60 mile rides up in Barrington Hills at a 15-16 mph pace, just to get more miles.
|i've probably seen you guys....||PEDDLEFOOT|
Feb 13, 2003 11:43 AM
|...On Sunday mornings.I ride up there by myself alot on Sunday mornings.Alot of nice rolling hills in that area.Thats about my pace and distance for Sundays also.|
|Sometimes it's just nice to ride.||MR_GRUMPY|
Feb 13, 2003 11:54 AM
|Sometimes it's just fun to ride along without your heart rate up in the 150's. On days like that, it's fun to joke around and make excuses about how poorly we've done in last weeks race. If someone has done well in a race, we joke about that too.|
|That's my neck of the woods.||greg n|
Feb 13, 2003 2:05 PM
|I live right on the Harper route. Saturdays I usually do that ride unless I'm racing. Sundays I usually ride on my own or start a little later and go out with the Flyers group.|
|That's my neck of the woods.||MR_GRUMPY|
Feb 13, 2003 7:55 PM
|I've got to start doing the Harper ride again. The weather has been so crappy, all of my miles have been on a trainer. Tonight wasn't any different. I did 3 5K intervals with a 1 mile recovery inbetween. Low zone 4, in a gear that you can only push 70 RPM. With warm up, Tempo, intervals and cool down, I got in an hour and 20 min.
It's probably going to be a month before I can get outside during the week after work.
Only 4 weeks before the first Parkside Crits.......
|Well, we're all in the same boat I guess||greg n|
Feb 14, 2003 7:06 AM
|The Parkside series is quickly approaching and I feel I'm really far behind in my training. I was hoping to get a couple 3 hour rides in this weekend, but with the snow coming today, that'll muck things up on the road...again. So here goes another weekend on the trainer and doing laps on the perimeter trail in Deer Grove.
BTW, which category will you be doing at Parkside?
Feb 14, 2003 9:20 AM
|I'll be in the 50+ race. I'll try to be there for the sprint also. This early in the season, I'm sure a few riders will chicken out going through the final turn. I plan to be in front of them. It's going to be hard this year. We are going to have at least 4 or 5 riders who can break the hour in a 40K.
I'll be indoor again this weekend, on the trainer. I can only do 2 hours indoor per day, without going nuts. There will be time later for the three and four rides.
Feb 14, 2003 10:20 AM
|I'm probably going to do the 3s (I was 4s last year). If I'm feeling good, I might do the 30+ race as a warm up.|
Feb 14, 2003 10:33 AM
|Often the 30+ race is faster than the 3's because many of them are 2's who want to warm up for their race. Likewise, the fastest riders in my race will often do the 40+ race just after mine, and place in the top 3.|
Feb 13, 2003 10:46 AM
|My last component purchase was a set of Campy Chorus pedals. I called around town (Los Angeles), checked the various catalogues and internet sites, and then drove down to the SUPERGO in Santa Monica to buy them. Their price was the best around. They were also one of the few places to actually have the pedals in stock.
To be sure, it's not my favorite place to shop. They tend to be brusque and pushy. But they've got the merchandise, and their mechanics (at least when you get to deal with them face to face) are first rate.
|re: POLL: Where was your last component purchase made?||bcm119|
Feb 13, 2003 11:00 AM
|My last bike related purchase was at my LBS, Sidi Genius 4's for less than I could find online (besides UK, but they didn't have my "narrow" width available). Last component purchase was a pair of Look pedals from Colorado Cyclist- "blowout" price.|
|A & B!||noveread|
Feb 13, 2003 11:01 AM
|Well, I'm building up a new bike and of course, needed the full deal. I was going to buy all of my stuff from my LBS but an online shop had a great deal on ultegra levers and rear derailleurs so I bought those two online, everything else I bought from my LBS.
I did check online prices first.
Yes, I am sure I will pay more than I would have online. I trust my LBS, it is a small 1-man with occasional help shop. I told him what I wanted did not ask him for a quote because I was going to buy from him. He sponsors our club and is a great guy, despite being waaayyyy too strong on the bike! I'm confident he'll give me a good deal.
|A & B in Springfield?||funknuggets|
Feb 13, 2003 11:50 AM
|You in Springfield, MO?
|Hah, no! A&B as in yes to A and to B! nm :)||noveread|
Feb 13, 2003 2:04 PM
|A & B!||TSuprano|
Feb 13, 2003 5:21 PM
|How you doin? A&B is a very overated shop in Missouri. They are way overpriced on everything. That is what happens when you live in a small market like Sprinfield. I am glad I know longer live in that hole.|
|A & B!||funknuggets|
Feb 14, 2003 8:54 AM
|Ha! I just know they sponsored our collegiate team and gave us some crack prices on the new Cannondale 2.8 R900's with Ultegra STI back in the day when the 2.8s first came out. I dropped a mere $638 on that thing... they rocked. I have no clue where they have gone since the early 90's and I agree, I also thought Springfield was a hole as well. Nice riding around there though!
|re: POLL: Where was your last component purchase made?||SpaceCowboy|
Feb 13, 2003 11:04 AM
|The "last" purchase was made through Excel Sports. Saved about $20 on the San Marco Era Pro saddle closeout. Was also the only place that I could find that carries the new "Cafe Cleats" replacements for the Time Impact pedals (needed an xtra pair for winter shoes). Other than that, try to get everything from my LBS (CBIKE.COM).|
|Hey did they totally drop DeBernardi?||Kristin|
Feb 13, 2003 11:19 AM
|What's the team going to ride?|
|re: POLL: Where was your last component purchase made?||dotkaye|
Feb 13, 2003 12:05 PM
|Always online. The only thing I ever bought from a LBS was a headset, since they were replacing the worn-out one on a frame I'd bought here on RBR. Several reasons:
1. haven't been able to find a friendly knowledgeable LBS;
2. do all my own maintenance, much quicker than going to a LBS, plus I know exactly who to blame when things go wrong ;
3. I can order anything on the web in 5 minutes and have it delivered to work (since the UPS van is there every day anyway), instead of having to drive for hours around the countryside trying to find what I need. Ancient retrogrouch parts and bleeding-edge tri parts are what I mostly buy, both of which are most easily found on the web.
|re: POLL: Where was your last component purchase made?||roadrider|
Feb 13, 2003 12:19 PM
|Excel Sports campy 9 speed record shifters
Branford Bike 9 speed cassette spacers
LBS gives me to much shit, always tells me why do
you want to do that, and it can't be done. No
purchase from them.
|Pedals from Sierra Trading Post nm||dzrider|
Feb 13, 2003 1:00 PM
|Supergo and LBS||fracisco|
Feb 13, 2003 1:08 PM
|Bought some tires and cages at Supergo. I was in the neighborhood and couldn't pass up $25 Hutchinson Carbon Comp tires to ride on instead of my Axial Pro Race.
Bought (and returned) a computer at the LBS. The computer (Cateye Cordless 2) just didn't fit right on my fork (CAAD5), and looked bad, to boot.
|Vetta cordless/cadence, LBS.||Struggle|
Feb 13, 2003 1:48 PM
|I always check the catalogs and then go to my LBS. for the price difference. They always match the price which means no shipping cost as well and easier service for warranty. I will always support my local economy than some one elses even if cost is a little more sometimes. When ever I have taken my bike in for an adjustment it gets done as soon as I hit the door at no cost. The Vetta cordless is a great computer with all kinds of options. Mine has cordless cadance and temp and will run two diffrent mile counters if used on a different bike as well. Support your local neighbors I always think. After all they support you. The exception to this of course would be if I felt I get jerked around then I would not support them, but they always treat me professionally.
|Will probably get another Mity 3 n/m||fracisco|
Feb 13, 2003 3:22 PM
|B.:a PhilWood ti bottombracket from branfordbike.com nm||Leroy|
Feb 13, 2003 1:38 PM
|re: POLL: Where was your last component purchase made?||4bykn|
Feb 13, 2003 1:45 PM
|A new set of cables from Airborne.net.
Usually I get most of my stuff from Performance.
|My LBS (nm)||Wheelz|
Feb 13, 2003 2:31 PM
|got my King disc wheelset at Extreme Sports,CharlottesvilleVa..||Stinky Hippie|
Feb 13, 2003 4:07 PM
|...not three hours ago. I shopped around a bit and ended up Paying 50 bucks more than I had to by going the LBS route, but it keeps things in the family.
feel the gin
|Last 10+ were at my LBS. No more online for me, thanks. -nm||Tig|
Feb 13, 2003 4:49 PM
Feb 13, 2003 5:11 PM
|How you doin? My last component purchase was a set of Campagnolo differential brakes at http://www.gearlink.com The price was the best I could find. Marak made sure of it. I always buy online to save money.|
Feb 13, 2003 7:22 PM
|Couldn't get what I wanted online easily. (25.4mm seatpost for "new"/old fixed gear, track cog). Had to order it from lbs, but will probably be comparable to online prices w/ my 10% discount. This shop is great-buy a bike there and you get 10% off almost everything except bikes and some components-FOREVER! As MB1 does, though, large purchases and planned purchases are usually online 'caus they're cheaper. We have no large chain bike stores nearby.|
|How about component components?||djg|
Feb 14, 2003 8:37 AM
|I bought some ergo lever parts for a rebuild at an lbs--and had them do the rebuild, truth be told. I think that was my last component purchase. Also bought some shoe inserts last week at another lbs. OTOH, I've bought plenty of stuff over the net.
I did not compare price on line with the bits. OTOH, the last time I bought tires (pretty recently), I didn't have to check. I knew that the lbs would be double the mail order price and I wasn't interested.
|LOL: tires. that's coincidental...||JS Haiku Shop|
Feb 14, 2003 10:30 AM
|I called the LBS this morning for a quote on a pair of michelin axial kevlars. $19.95 each in *any* catalog...$40+tax *each* LBS. i don't think so.|| |