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First double century next saturday - any advice ?(15 posts)

First double century next saturday - any advice ?PeterRider
Feb 10, 2003 10:18 PM
I'm going to try my first double century this coming saturday - Butterfield double (8000ft, 192 miles) in SoCal. And I must say, I fear a bit to die !

So far, I've done 8 centuries last year and this year. Including, 2 weeks ago, a self-supported century with 11,000 ft climb, so I guess this was a decent ride. The guy who was riding with me on that day is used to doubles, and told me a double was easier than what we did. But still, it is hard to believe... when I do 100 miles, I feel OK but no way like I could go twice that !! 200 miles is very very long !!

Any strategy to adopt, recommendations, whatever ?

Thanks,

Pierre
Enjoy and find an extra 8 miles somewhere.MB1
Feb 11, 2003 4:03 AM
The Butterfield is pretty nice and not all that hard at all.
you're ready. just do it. nmJS Haiku Shop
Feb 11, 2003 6:03 AM
my standard advice for first doubleDougSloan
Feb 11, 2003 6:53 AM
Advice for a first double:

1. go slower than you think you should; never go anaerobic, even (or especially) to keep up with a fast pace line; you are better off riding alone than in a pace line what is over your head, as you will regret it later

2. eat 300 calories per hour and drink one bottle per hour (minimum)

3. don't linger at food stops too long; grab a banana and eat on the bike while moving

4. around 130-180 miles you may well get depressed and want to quit; don't; it passes; think in baby steps at that point ("I'll just go ten more miles...")

5. Chamois Butt'r!

6. take lower gears that you think you will need; what seems easy in a 50 mile ride gets much harder at 180 miles; plus, spinning up hills saves your legs for later

7. try to enjoy the scenery, people, and have fun; it's not a race

Doug
Carry some warmer clothes than you normally wear.dzrider
Feb 11, 2003 8:04 AM
Lots of people get cold about the same time they get depressed. It's nice to have arm and leg warmers or a jacket to put on.

I'd put lots of emphasis on #7. The more you share the effort with others the easier it will feel.
Lots of good advice...outofthesaddle
Feb 11, 2003 1:56 PM
If you focus on numbers 4, 5 and 7, the rest of the issues tend to work themselves out.

Good Luck.
Keep pedaling! nmrwbadley
Feb 11, 2003 7:29 AM
You'll be surprised how fast the first 100 seems to go...Lon Norder
Feb 11, 2003 10:17 AM
When you're shooting for 200, the first 100 seems to go by really fast.

You've heard it before: pacing, fueling, hydration (and I'll add: electrolytes). Good luck and have fun.
follow cue sheetcyclopathic
Feb 11, 2003 10:57 AM
and don't get lost. There's nothing comparing to 20mi bonus on 250mi ride.

with respect to practical advises Doug pretty much covered it. I'd recommend Bag Balm over Chamois buttr and stick with normal foods like subs or sandwiches. Some people develop acid flux carry a couple Tums and H-blockers like Zantac. Tums alone don't last more then 1-2hr.
hey CP, how do you carry spare bag balm on the ride? nmJS Haiku Shop
Feb 11, 2003 11:35 AM
hey CP, how do you carry spare bag balm on the ride? nmcyclopathic
Feb 11, 2003 12:01 PM
yes I put it 35mm film canister (1/2 is enough) in case if I use facility and need to put on fresh coat. Bag balm also works well on lip chips.

Fuji film canisters work the best they seal tight and you can see what's in w/o oppening.

I usually carry one with bag balm, one with pills (endurolites, aleve, Zantac and Tums) and 2-3 with Cytomax (one is enough to mix up a bottle). Add sample size sunblock, 2 spare tubes, patch kit, irons and it all fits in tiny saddle bag.

On longer brevets with drop bag option pack extra in drop and pick up if need replacement. Last year I rode brevets with small saddle bag and 3 pocket jersey and I didn't miss much.
thanks...JS Haiku Shop
Feb 11, 2003 12:05 PM
by the way, M&Ms can be had in a 5-6" plastic container that's reusable as a drink powder holder. same diameter (little smaller) as film canister, but triple capacity. enough for 2 large bottles.
Where do you buy Bag Balm or Chamois butter ? Thx !PeterRider
Feb 11, 2003 3:36 PM
Please post a follow up after your successful ride Saturday!PseuZQ
Feb 11, 2003 12:49 PM
I'd be really interested to see how you do and how you felt...I'm 95 percent committed to doing the Death Valley Double and am getting a little nervous....:-|

So after you nail this thing, please post how it went!
Thx for the advice all - in particular DougSloan !PeterRider
Feb 11, 2003 3:33 PM