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Ti or Carbon Frame advice for skinny guy(11 posts)

Ti or Carbon Frame advice for skinny guy125lb
Feb 10, 2003 9:30 AM
Any suggestions on ti, carbon, or combination of both materials? I just got a raise and decided to go big. Looking for just a frame, any price. I want something light that is built to last. I usually dont put too much stress on my bikes and i dont race. Right now I ride a 2001 Giant TCR and love the light weight. But I know this bike isn't built to last.
I'm 5'6", 125 lbs, 31 years old and i'm not gaining any weight anytime soon. Nothing but hills here in the SF bay area. I usually do 2 40 mile rides per week and one longer 60 mile ride on the weekend, lots of smaller night rides 10-16 miles during the week too, after work. I like to try to ride fast but I have trouble riding the longer distances. Any suggestions? Comfort, lightweight, and long term life are key.
Why is your TCR Carbon "not built to last?"jtolleson
Feb 10, 2003 9:35 AM
A flyweight like you can probably get many happy years out of that bike before worrying about your next ride.

I don't think your distrust of carbon is supported by science, but obviously if you are that concerned about durability, then you are a good candidate for ti.
who said he had a TCR Carbon?collinsc
Feb 10, 2003 9:50 AM
although that may be a good option if he likes the current TCR
Apparently the little voices in my head did! :)jtolleson
Feb 10, 2003 10:41 AM
Don't know where I got that!

Next question, then, is why isn't the TCR built to last?
re: build to lastcyclopathic
Feb 11, 2003 12:25 PM
TCR frame is too light (fraction over 2lbs) no wonder Giant gives only 5 year warranty. However frame failure shouldn't be an issue for 125lbs rider.
who said he had a TCR Carbon?scottfromcali
Feb 10, 2003 10:50 PM
If you knew anything about Giants' you would know that they didnt make carbon frames in 2001.
Thanks for snipingjtolleson
Feb 11, 2003 7:20 AM
already said I misread the post.
2 lovely choices...kushogun
Feb 10, 2003 11:08 AM
Since money is not a factor, go with the Fondriest Top Level Carbon or the De Rosa King Carbon. Most Ti frames are going to be a bit heavy, but most are pretty comfy. You could always go with the Litespeed Ghisallo. Under 2 pounds for the frame!
110 carbonoutofthesaddle
Feb 10, 2003 11:21 AM
I know that it's not an "exotic" but the Trek 110 framset for about $2000 is a great value. Superlight, climbs like a dream and with a lifetime warranty.
re: Ti or Carbon Frame advice for skinny guyTig
Feb 10, 2003 3:20 PM
As a fellow light weight (5' 7", 130 lbs) I'll share a few of my lusted for Ti and CF frames.

Ti: Moots Vamoots SL or SL compact. New this year at 2.6 and 2.5 pounds respectively for one of the highest quality seamless butted 6/4 alloyed tubeset Ti frames available (or any Ti for that matter). http://www.moots.com/bike-rd-sl.php
I've never been in love with the silly sounding "Moots" name, so I'd go with the exact same frame with the Hampsten badge http://www.hampsten.com/titanio.html
Andy says:

"Titanio (bikus maximus): This is the best bike I have ever swung a leg over.

It has a sweet, luscious ride with overtones of European road tracking skills that round out the tar and acid in your legs. Stiff in the straight-ahead power department and forgiving on tight corners and flat out descents. It gives the rider the feeling they could handle any course and still have the energy to brag about it après avoir roulé..

A properly fitted Hampsten Titanio is the last bike any of us will ever need; may we all have one in our faster racing years." Andy usually doesn't gloat over frames this much!

CF: Calfee Dragonfly. Slightly over 2 pounds, it is a dream. Painted with a clear coat effect, these fine, ultralight frames with 25 year warranties are a true treat. http://www.calfeedesign.com/dragonfly.shtml
A second choice would be the Merckx Carbon. http://www.eddymerckx.be/

Here's a possible new choice available soon that combines both. LeMond's new Tete de Course uses Reynolds 3/2.5 double butted titanium head tube, down tube, and chain stays for strength and bottom bracket stiffness, and OCLV 110 carbon for the top tube and seat tube for lightness and comfort. This bike looks exciting! Team Saturn will be using them this year. http://www.lemondbikes.com/2003/bikes/bikes_tetedecourse.html
re: Ti or Carbon Frame advice for skinny guy125lb
Feb 12, 2003 8:27 AM
Thanks, all of the above recommendations are all bikes I've been considering. I've never checked out the Andy Hampsten frames, so I'll do that next. Being in San Francisco, leads me to lean towards the dragonfly or moots, because of the lightweight (for all of the freakin hills around here) and comfort, you can ride for hours and hours out here and probably run into 100+ other riders doing long road rides on any given sat. or sun. morning at the Golden Gate bridge. Lemond, and Trek have great warranties and availability but it would be nice to try to support one of the smaller builders who have to struggle a little more to make money. I think that buying one bike would actually make a difference to them, as opposed to the larger companies, who also make great stuff. The Merlin Cielo is also nice, but available only as a complete bike. Yesterday I checked out the new Bianchi Carbon, very nice. I will check out all of your recommendations again and I appreciate your info. Thanks!