|the Ciocc ride report||The Human G-Nome|
Feb 8, 2003 4:09 PM
|ok, so now i can actually give it a review.
Nicassio Loop, 82 miles.
the difference in weight between my columbus steel frame and my new ride is about 6.5 pounds. you would think the biggest difference would be climbing, but that's not it. sure, you feel it, but it's nothing as dramatic as you might imagine. my other frame was plenty stiff in the rear triangle and the Ciocc passes this test with flying colors. but as i alluded in a previous post, the stiffness does not negate compliance. to put it in perspective, normally after mile 60 i feel like i can feel every little bump in the road and each blemish is magnfied. on the Ciocc, quite the opposite was true. even during the last few miles the bike still felt like it was practically disappearing beneath me in contrast. VERY comfortable and this isn't in relationship to gemometry which also suits me well. of course, the all carbon fork/steerer and the Eurus most likely has plenty to do with this surprise as well.
the true beauty of this bike, however, is on the descent. the thing is on RAILS. soooo stable and predictable that i was shocked at the difference. tight corners at 40mph felt like nothing at all. on my other ride, my hands are firmly on the brake levers, waiting for any excuse to slow down. on the Ciocc, the brakes are an afterthought.
and finally, i admit that it's kinda nice to own a bike you'll probably never see another rider on. nothing wrong with unique.
|Hey, you can brag about a great bike but you can't. . .||js5280|
Feb 8, 2003 4:26 PM
|brag about a great bike and great weather in the same post ;-) Sounds like a keeper. It is a very beauiful bike, congratulations!|
Feb 8, 2003 4:38 PM
|I'm like you-I wouldn't ride a Trek or other more common bikes even if they were the best in the world-I like having a bike that few have. Don't rub in the new ride AND great weather!|
|re: the Ciocc ride report||Raven1911|
Feb 8, 2003 4:58 PM
|Great bike! Glad you are happy with it. I definitely would like to ride something nobody else is riding, but if I can go fast and am very comfortable, I don't care what make it is. You have a good lookin' bike though. I have a koobi seat too but haven't seen that model yet. What model is it?
|re: the Ciocc ride report||The Human G-Nome|
Feb 8, 2003 10:57 PM
|it's the Au Enuro, the "training model". i was worried it would be too soft, but it's actually quite hard.|
|re: the Ciocc ride report||CrazyMan|
Feb 8, 2003 10:40 PM
I'm seriously considering a similar purchase and was wondering what size the bike was, and what your weight is - if you don't mind, of course.
Nice colour choice, btw.
|re: the Ciocc ride report||The Human G-Nome|
Feb 8, 2003 11:00 PM
|it's actually a 50cm. Ciocc has a 1cm longer top tube, otherwise, i may have went with a 52. i weigh 148 and am historically not hard on frames. obviously, i have no qualifications to say this, but i'd be surprised if it doesn't last quite a long time.
and believe it or not, the color scheme was a bit of a mistake. i wanted "Blu Note" which was advertised as the same color blue but with baby blue stickers. of course, the stickers are white and i actually think i like that better. sooo clean.
|My Fondriest is better than your Ciocc...||Ride-Fly|
Feb 9, 2003 12:36 AM
|A HUGE Just Kidding, G!!!!! That is a
b BEAUTIFUL BIKE
and I'm sure it rides great!!! I know what you mean about having a bike that isn't ridden by the masses. I love Klein bikes and IMHO they are the sweetest bikes made but I ended up picking up a Carb Level for such a smoking deal, I would have been a fool to pass it up. Not a lot people ride the top of the line Klein, but even fewer people ride Cioccs, and Fondriests. Ciocc has a great heritage, kinda like De Rosa and Masi IMHO. Too bad Masi will never regain its old reputation and status but it seems that De Rosas and Cioccs are once again making a great name for themselves (I know that they were never totally out of the scene but it did seem for awhile that they were on the edge of the cycling scene). Now if only Guerciotti would rise from the proverbial ashes!! Where do you ride G-Nome?? What are going to do with your old bike?? Ride ON!!!
|My Fondriest is better than your Ciocc...||The Human G-Nome|
Feb 9, 2003 8:52 AM
|"Where do you ride G-Nome?? What are going to do with your old bike?? Ride ON!!!"
my old bike is staying with me and is now my night/rain bike. it's set up with a marwi torch and some Ultra Gators and will continue to serve me well. the Ciocc will not see the dark and i don't think there's any reason to risk her on the crazy potholes that form in Golden Gate Park at the beginning of my rides. i admit that at least for awhile, i'm going to baby the Ciocc. can't help myself.
as far as a few manufacturers rising from the ashes, Ciocc has just begun to replace itself in the upper eschelon of exotic italian bikes. it's no accident and seems they're being quite agressive about it. some of their late 90's rides were subpar in comparison and they've only really started to blossom in the last 2 years, IMHO. it's no accident that you mention them in the same breath as DeRosa as they share the same factory for paint and even a few builders. it would seem they're a bit of a sister company. the difference is that there is no price cartel going on with Ciocc (yet, fingers crossed) while you can't say the same thing about DeRosa. i think the Ciocc's are beautiful, but i still say DeRosa is the king of elegant as far as paint jobs goes. a few of the more recent Fondriest numbers and some of the Casatis are pretty close as well.
and finally, i do almost all my riding in North Bay San Francisco, Marin County and beyond. Nicassio Loop, Alpine Dam, Muir Woods, Stinson Beach, etc.
|My Fondriest is better than your Ciocc...||mmaggi|
Feb 10, 2003 7:40 AM
|Well, IMO the best paint jobs are from Colnago, Pinarello, De Rosa & Casati. I own a 2000 Casati Forma (SC61.10) and it's gorgeous, smooth welds, paint job and all.
I have yet to ride with anyone on a Ciocc or a Fondriest and I also believe that's a good thing. I have yet to see a Casati, so I'm happy to be one of the only few who has one.
Based on pictures, Ciocc and Fondriest look to be good candidates to carry on with the Italian legacy of beautifully finished frames. Hopefully I will see one soon.
|pretty bike, climbs well too..||dotkaye|
Feb 10, 2003 9:50 AM
|last year on the Courage Classic, the only rider to pass me going up Vail Pass was on a Ciocc like that. I'd have noticed the bike anyway, but I sure noticed its climbing abilities.. heh.
Guerciotti is what I long for, but I'd happily keep a Ciocc polished too.. nice bike.