|pedestrians to left or right on MUT's?||DougSloan|
Feb 7, 2003 2:26 PM
|At least half the population does not know the right answer, assuming there is one.
While riding on the BIKE TRAIL, I encounter walkers and runners all over the place. Left, right, down the middle, 4 abreast -- we all know the routine. It's like riding a slalom or obstacle course.
Some must think they must walk like they are on a road, facing traffic. Some think it's more like a sidewalk, and go with traffic. Most I'd bet don't think at all.
So, what's the answer, barring anything posted at the trail (which I've never seen)? I can see arguments both ways.
|re: pedestrians to left or right on MUT's?||robbz27|
Feb 7, 2003 2:33 PM
|I always thought it was walkers/rollerbladers to the furthest right possible, thus allowing cyclists to pass on the left.
Kind of "slowest always to the furthest right" kind of setup. Walkers all the way right so they can be passed by runners who can be passed by rollerbladers who can be passed by cyclists, all of which should move back over as far to the right as possible after the pass.
God forbid anyone would follow this reccomendation though. I lived in Chicago for 4 years. Lakefront path was like a suicide run on the weekends.
|I'm not sure what your asking, but it depends on the trail||Kristin|
Feb 7, 2003 2:56 PM
|Here in Illinios, the Cook County trails all require foot traffic to walk on the left and cyclists to remain on the right. However, DuPage county, I believe, is the opposite. And then there are some privatly owned paths that have there own rules.
Busse Woods is a great example of how this just gets messy. 90% of the poeple who visit Busse have never read the rules, so they don't have a clue that pedestrians should walk to the left of the yellow line. They just do what seems natural--what they do in their cars--and stay to the right.
Now remember--only 90% of the people don't follow the rules. That leaves a smattering of people who actually do walk to the left of the line, while the rest walk on the right. Can you say AAARRRGGGHHH?
Since 90% of the people do walk on the right and are oblivious to the rules. And since the park district does not enforce any of the rules anyway (except the one that says you can't live in the park), then it seems to me that everyone ought to just walk on the right. Its the more intuitive choice at least.
You know, its the same deal with walkers in my old neighborhood. Half of them walk to the right and the other half to the left. (No one walks in my new neigborhood with out carrying a weapon. And you just let everyone walk where they want to.)
|Eaton Trail? Some bike riders don't know the answer, either||Straightblock|
Feb 7, 2003 3:10 PM
|My worst cycling crash was on the Eaton Trail at Woodward park a few years ago. A kid & his mom rounded a blind curve going the opposite direction. I was on the extreme right side of the path at a modest 10-15 mph & the kid hit me head on. His mom told me "There are no sides. Everyone just rides wherever they want."|
|as Yogi Berra might have said...||mohair_chair|
Feb 7, 2003 3:13 PM
|...go where they ain't.
The answer is that there is no answer.
I believe that most users walk as if they are on a busy New York sidewalk. There's two-way traffic, randomly dispersed, and you essentially walk wherever there is room. It's common sense, and rules are irrelevant.
|Trek 5900 Frame Question||Mark50|
Feb 7, 2003 4:42 PM
|Doug or anyone else, I saved all last year and ordered a 5900 Frame from the LBS. It came in today, but did not appear to be what I ordered. The decals were the wrong color and the OCLV decal said 120 not 110. The LBS is perplexed as they are a relatively new Trek dealer and will have to call Trek on Monday to get the straight poop.
The frame did have the silver headset characteristic of the 5900. My question is to those that have or have seen the 5900 frames first hand, does the decal say OCLV 110?
|re: pedestrians to left or right on MUT's?||pina|
Feb 7, 2003 6:24 PM
|To the right. I travel a big and long trail here in Seattle and they are always traveling on the same side going the same direction as me. I pass on the left and they all expect this. Every once in a while there will be some people who don't have any trail etiquette, taking more than half of the trail, and i have to time my pass based on oncoming traffic. The only times i see people coming toward me on the same side, they are off the trail in the grass. This has been the case the last ten years i have been on this trail. Of course you can never be sure about small kids. I always go as far left as possible. Inexperienced riders are usually easy to spot when you have to ride a little defensively.|
|Doesn't matter.||Spoke Wrench|
Feb 8, 2003 6:20 AM
|You don't have the power to control other people's behavior. Regardless of the rule, people are going to walk wherever they choose. Posting a sign doesn't cut it unless you have an official force to police it.
As a bicycle rider, if you are going to ride in a place where pedestrians are likely, you just have to be prepared to deal with them wherever they are.
|To the right (nm)||abelson|
Feb 8, 2003 9:33 AM