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Treadmill stress test and maximum heart rate(10 posts)

Treadmill stress test and maximum heart rateMel Erickson
Feb 7, 2003 9:03 AM
Does anyone know how accurately a standard treadmill stress test measures maximum heart rate? I'm about to have a physical and the doc wants to do a baseline stress test. Since I have an "in" at the clinic (my wife used to do stress tests and I know all the nurses and docs that do them) I think I could get a little extra service. The people that do the tests are not trained to do them for training purposes, however, I also know the cardiac rehab people well, who are trained exercise physiologists, and do know a bit about it. Any tips on conducting the test so I can kill two birds with one stress?
re: Treadmill stress test and maximum heart rateThe Human G-Nome
Feb 7, 2003 9:04 AM
what makes the doctor want to give you an exercise thallium? hope you're doing alright.
No problemMel Erickson
Feb 7, 2003 9:12 AM
Just turned 50 and he wants a baseline for future comparison just in case something does go wrong. I've got a little history of heart disease in my family and I have high blood pressure which is well under control. Just precautionary.
re: Treadmill stress test and maximum heart rateNo_sprint
Feb 7, 2003 9:23 AM
A stress test will really not help in any sort of training assessment. To get VO2 max and other numbers, different equipment and different tests need to be run. The one thing you can get from a stress test is an actual Max HR. Tell the techs accurately what kind of shape you're in. There are different protocols that the machines can be run at. Some will definitely not max you out. If you really want that number, tell the tech that and they'll put you on a tough protocol. Prepare for one damn hard test. I went full bore, hard as I can for as long as I could. You basically want to go to the point where you'll just about pass out.
Another issueirregardless
Feb 7, 2003 9:42 AM
Max HR and your other reading are sport-specific. The numbers may not translate over well to cycling.
you sure?Mel Erickson
Feb 7, 2003 10:47 AM
Never heard or read that MHR was sport specific. Always thought it was hard wired (genetic). Why would it make a difference what sport or activity you're using to measure MHR if you get up to your limit? Can you provide a reference or more enlightenment? Curious minds want to know. Besides, I'm not going to use it for a regimented training schedule. I want it more as a guideline but would like something a little more accurate than 220-age. I figure I've got the opportunity to have my health insurance pay for it so why not get the most out of it? I'm just a poor 50 year old guy who wants to maintain fitness and do some fun competition so he can be a poor 80 year old guy who wants to maintain fitness and do some fun competiton. In addition I've got some specific goals in mind (several centruy + rides, mountain bike race, keeping up with the Dr. Jones', etc) and want to be a little more scientific in my preparation.
I'm surespeedisgood
Feb 7, 2003 10:56 AM
Got a master's and work in sports med. Treadmill data won't crossover into cycling planning very well. Your max HR (not the best way to plan training anyway, lactate threshold [LT] is best) will be around 10-15 BPM higher on the treadmill.

Could be useful if you're planning on doing some running, tho I'd still recommend a lactate for any endurance training. Do a 1 hour time trial and see what your avg. HR is (not including warmup, cool down.) That should be pretty close to your LT.
you sure?KEN2
Feb 7, 2003 11:02 AM
See "Precision Heart Rate Training" by the late Ed Burke, for more on this... basically you'll see a higher max in sports like running, where you lift your entire bodyweight off the ground, vs. cycling (somewhat lower Max HR), and swimming (likely 10-15 bpm lower because the water supports your body weight).

However, in an absolute sense you're right: you do have a top rate that can't be exceeded. However, in a practical sense, i.e. setting up a training plan, you need to know the real max for the sport your training in, even though it may not be your top physiological maximum HR.
Sounds reasonableNo_sprint
Feb 7, 2003 11:14 AM
I've never hit my Max HR on the bike because I'd never want to work so hard that I'd be in danger of passing out on the bike. I was worried enough about crashing down on the treadmill. My guess is that it's fully possible though. I've gotten within about 10 of my Max HR on the bike and within about 3 on the spin bike.
Anyone know where to get a test done?Raven1911
Feb 7, 2003 11:09 PM
I live in southern CA and would like to get tested either VO2 Max or lactate threshold. Do they do them in a cycling format instead of a treadmill? Don't know if they are separate tests but I would like to get an idea of where I stand. Anyone have any links or know of testing sites in my area? Also how much are they?

Raven