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Big thanks to LFR(22 posts)

Big thanks to LFRLen J
Feb 6, 2003 9:57 AM

I really appreciate, not only the training advice that you give out so frequently, but also the way you deliver the message in as helpful a tone as possible.

I am not a racer, however I not only enjoy riding, but enjoy learning how to get better and faster and testing and learning about my body and how it reacts/improves by somewhat structuring my training. I started a more structured approach to riding last year when I had time constraints coupled with a desire to improve and get the most out of the time I had. Like most training novices, I read all that I could & was somewhat confused by the seeming contradictions and lack of understandable logic in whqat I was reading. Frustrated, I began frequenting the Racing board as a lurker and was quick to discover how much "Sense" there was in your training posts. You have seemed to unjumble many concepts that otherwise were a mystery to me.

As a result of picking and choosing a little here and a little there, listening to my own body, measuring my improvement and not getting so structured that I lost the joy, I feel like I am a much stronger rider than I was as little as 1 year ago.

Reading the posts below on Junk miles made me realize that I have never acknowledged your help so I just wanted to take a minute to say thanks.

muchos muchos ditto nmJS Haiku Shop
Feb 6, 2003 10:16 AM
and, more bread to butter: MB1 and Wonderdog...JS Haiku Shop
Feb 6, 2003 10:24 AM
while we're buttering our bread on both sides, these guys deserve some nice words...

MB1, tireless advice with a "FWIW" and "YMMV" consistency, mostly objective. Always helpful and pleasant, and approachable, except when wearing a kilt (big assumption there). RBR MPV IMHO.

Wonderdog, supercharged cat 2 "slumming" with us non-racer types without a second thought--understands that the line between "racer" and "recreational" can't be drawn in such a small cycling community as this, and wouldn't do it anyway. Advice, experience, and expertise most helpful, except when he's dropping me on his overgeared fixie (up hills). In 5 years, I have found no other idiot cyclist fool enough to join me before the sun, on the first 30 miles of "training" centuries, before joining the rest of the group 2 hours later (who were still sleeping when we hit the 20 mile mark).

Jeez, I'm getting all teary eyed over here.


Hey, I've got a crush on her. Thanks always, LFR!bill
Feb 6, 2003 10:46 AM
de nada,lonefrontranger
Feb 6, 2003 11:06 AM
You are more than welcome.

As I'm sure you are aware, much of this knowledge is secondhand and I must give credit where credit is due: my mentors, my own coaches, Joe Friel, this and other discussion boards, etc... The rest is hard-earned through my own mistakes (which is why I started coaching; to help others avoid making the same ones).

I try to couch this stuff in understandable terms because (as both a natural and chemically enhanced blonde) I have never had a lot of patience with technobabble for the sheer sake of technobabble. I read a lot, have 2 Ph.D.s for parents and had (and actually read) a subscription to Scientific American all through my youth, so I understand the science better than most would think. In practical terms I admit I am pretty unschooled (have never darkened the doors of a higher learning facility - yet). I have enough background in exercise physiology to have gotten my coaching license a few years back (which isn't all that), but I also recognize that a lot of the really hardcore geek stuff makes most people's eyes glaze over. Most of the students I worked with preferred to know when and how much to ride and how hard, with a little background as to why it worked, end of story. This is why I am eternally grateful to those such as Kerry and Dale Brigham who really do know their stuff but can explain it so it doesn't sound like my high school calculus teacher off on one of raves.

Hell, I'm still learning too. Part of why I started coaching was that I am one of those who learns more about doing something by teaching it to others.

While we're at it, thanks also to JS Haiku, Kristin, Doug and MB1. These are the folks (aside from gregg, natch) who serve as the pit props that keep this board from descending into the ninth circle of Hell.
"thanks also to JS Haiku, Kristin, Doug and MB"The Human G-Nome
Feb 6, 2003 11:41 AM
While we're at it, thanks also to JS Haiku, Kristin, Doug and MB1.>>>>

definitely. without these folks, this board would look dangerously close to "that other board". yikes. it's nice that these folks are able to show a little bit of their character in their posts. it doesn't feel so anymous that way and comes off much more like a real community. i will continue to strive toward those aspirations.
group hug :-)DougSloan
Feb 6, 2003 7:37 PM
I don't think you can single people out; it really is a community.

I, myself, do look to LFR for her training and racing experience and knowledge. Very helpful.

Don't forget that often you learn just as much by answering questions as you do asking them. (Confucious probably said that more elegantly.)

Agreed, Thanks LenKristin
Feb 6, 2003 11:18 AM
LFR, For my questions, you have been on of the mosted valued posters. Thanks for always being pleasant and for taking time to share your knowledge.
Plus she has an elegantOldEdScott
Feb 6, 2003 11:35 AM
prose style and a storyteller's knack. Always a pleasure to read.
What would be great is...noveread
Feb 6, 2003 11:39 AM
To have all of LFR's training posts put together into a little section all of her own! A training FAQ page by LFR!

Please Gregg?

And thanks LFR and to all who take the time to provide indepth responses to newbies. I was once "Wannabe," now I'm noveread!

eeek! probably not...lonefrontranger
Feb 6, 2003 2:33 PM
That's just what I want to see... a centralized locale containing all the spelling errors, truncations and grammar goofs I've ever made, along with all the times I have unwittingly contradicted myself or quoted something inaccurately because I was too lazy or incensed to get the book out before I hit "Post" ... :-P

Thanks, noveread, that's very flattering, but in the end all this stuff is worth exactly what you are paying for it :-)

As far as being a newbie, well - I was one once. I still happen to remember those days, painfully in some cases. Ever seen a Bell "Commuter" helmet? I had one.
Maybe I'll just have to make it my mission! :) nmnoveread
Feb 7, 2003 10:38 AM
while you're at ittarwheel
Feb 6, 2003 1:01 PM
In addition to LFR and MB1, I really appreciate the knowledge and experience shared by Kerry, Nessism, Doug, jtolleson, TJL and our other more technically gifted breathren. Most of it bounces off my thick skull, but some of it has stuck.
More kudos for LFRDale Brigham
Feb 6, 2003 1:06 PM
Did you see that masterfully concise, yet detailed, weekly training plan that LFR threw down in the "junk miles" thread below? That's what I strive to do for the athletes I coach. Like many things, it's much harder to do than it looks at first glance.

The coaching, the bikes (Colnagos!), the ride and race stories, the bon mots, the candid self-disclosure -- what's not to like? LFR rules!

(Group hug, y'all)

wow, really thanks!lonefrontranger
Feb 6, 2003 2:37 PM
That means a lot coming from someone else who coaches. I quit coaching a couple years ago because it took too much time and energy away from my own training, so aside from doing a few clinics I don't really keep at it - but it's good to see I still make sense and my program plans aren't getting too antiquated :)

I'll be happy to buy anyone on this thread a really good local microbrew or two if you ever come visit. C'mon, Boulder's not THAT far away.
1168.5 miles (nm)JS Haiku Shop
Feb 7, 2003 6:04 AM
How many brevets is that? nmKristin
Feb 7, 2003 8:22 AM
I dunno, but it's 33.4 x 35-milers!!! :) nmJS Haiku Shop
Feb 7, 2003 8:24 AM
aw, c'monlonefrontranger
Feb 7, 2003 8:48 AM
If you take 14 days (2 weeks) to do it, that's not even 85 miles per day! MB1 does more than that.

And it's not as if you actually have to ride OVER the mountains to get here; Boulder's on the near side of the Rockies to you. All you'd have to deal with is those piddly little Ozark things, then lots and lots of Kansas.
now, that's two long rides i'd have to take this yearJS Haiku Shop
Feb 7, 2003 10:52 AM
861.1 miles to visit and ride with mb1 and miss m, and 1168.5 miles to come play in boulder. if it were anybody but you guys, forget about it.

btw, ozarks are little bumps in the road compared to north georgia and the other side of tennessee.

i'd very much enjoy a ride from here to there. i'm not so sure mrs. haiku would be too happy about 2/3 of my year's vacation spent riding across the country, though.

tempting. very tempting...

:) :) :)
yum microbrew!velocity
Feb 7, 2003 8:12 AM
I'll add my voice to the general love fest.

The heart and soul of this board, what makes it so damn riveting at times, is people like you lfr who give so much to it. I've really enjoyed reading your posts (and learned a bunch from 'em too!). Thank you.
Well, if I get furloughed, I'm there! :)noveread
Feb 7, 2003 10:42 AM
Being a state employee, one of the "options" being discussed is a forced furlough for a month. I wouldn't mind too much, I'd probably take a trip somewhere alone for the week to ride...