|Another one bites the dust!||Nessism|
Feb 4, 2003 9:24 PM
|It seems that Dave Bohm of Bohemian Bicycles has hung up his torch in favor of a paying job. From what I've heard his frames were on par with the best, but alas, he didn't have enough customers to keep the doors open.
To me this is very sad because it indicates a lack of interest in a) steel frames, b) lugs (although Dave used other joining method as well), c) custom frames in general.
I know, I know, not everybody needs a custom frame. But custom doesn't have to be about geometery, it can be about fenders, color, or WHAT EVER YOU WANT. What's wrong with that?
|Another Bohm frame, TIG this time||Nessism|
Feb 4, 2003 9:29 PM
|Race frame anyone?|
|Another Bohm frame, TIG this time||jaybird|
Feb 5, 2003 6:56 AM
|If he doesn't have the volume to stay in business full time, I wonder what prevents him from building on a case by case basis in his spare time. The first two frames are beautiful. I bet Richard Sachs might learn a few things from him.|
|Too bad...thats beautiful work!!!||hycobob|
Feb 4, 2003 9:33 PM
|Pretty soon the only custom frames out there will be the dozen or so different paint schemes Trek offers out of their factory...or maybe a different bar tape for your compact geometry frame. Some idea of cutom, huh? Hopefully lugs won't go away all together. They make for some of the worlds prettiest bikes.|
|re: Another one bites the dust!||gtx|
Feb 4, 2003 9:57 PM
|Well, like a lot of things, you have to do it because you love it and not for the money. It's tough work that doesn't pay and lots of builders just get sick of it after a while. I have three great frames by builders who don't build anymore. I was sad to hear that each one had stopped, but there are still plenty of great builders out there, and plenty more builders coming down the pike. A lot of people get out of the bike business and suddenly find that they are making more money for less work and that they have more time to actually RIDE. With frame building in particular I always felt like it might be a fun hobby but a very difficult and frustrating profession--ie a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there--more power to those that do! Anyway, steel isn't dead. Lugs are maybe another story...|
|That is really saddening||StevieP|
Feb 4, 2003 11:38 PM
|I am a huge steel fan. I have 3 steel bikes. It is very sad to see a builder go, esp one who builds frames as beautiful as these. Bikes should be nice to look at as well as ride.
These are art - not like some fat tubed Alu with messy welds. Nothing wrong with Alu - it is a good material that makes sense to use on bikes but to me personally, there is something hugely appealing about the looks of skinny tubed steel. Bikes like they used to be I guess (and no I am not that old - a mere 31 years of age!). Each to their own (I am not trolling Alu).
I also love lugs - especially chromed one. A Richard Moon has got to be my top choice bike in the world.
I wish the very best for Dave Bohm in whatever he does.
Feb 5, 2003 5:33 AM
|If you like cromed lugs that look like art, check out this guy's bikes. The Earth to Sky paint job is amazing. The seat cluster shot knocks my socks off. |
|Why it happened?||PaulMC|
Feb 5, 2003 7:57 AM
|Maybe because while we all like to look at a bike like that, very few people want to have to pay for it. I don't think it has anything to do with lack of interest in steel or lugs or custom but has everything to do with customer demand for highly decorated frames and the money it takes to buy one. If you read his website it says he is a jeweler and while jewlers can make some very decorated things maybe they don't make the best bicycles? The bikes are undeniably pretty but pretty doesn't necessarily make them good.|
Feb 5, 2003 10:37 AM
|He also builds TIG frames so one doesn't have to get the fancy lugs if this is not desired and/or too expensive. The undeniable part is his attention to detail.
The thing I don't understand is why people will pay big bucks for a big name builder (Colnago comes to mind) when they can get a full custom for less money in many cases.
Resale value may be part of the answer but can't explain it all.