|The BABY resistance factor-Trailer Suggestions||pkompath|
Feb 4, 2003 6:26 AM
|My son is 10 mos. old and sort of prohibiting me from road and mountain riding on rare sunny days in the unpredictable winter months of NC. Thus, what I need is a baby trailer; however, it seems there are some really expensive "Burley" models and relatively cheap "instep" models. Basically, I just need a good cheap trailer that is safe ,easy to pack, easy to install, easy to maintain and rugged enough for mountain biking . Any suggestions? Hopefully, you guys can lead me in the right direction?|
Feb 4, 2003 7:11 AM
|I have the Instep -- $99 at Target. It seems every bit as good as a Burley. I can't see the difference. Appears to be perfectly safe and sturdy. I've used it a couple of times now behind my Milano, and no problems. I have no idea whether it is suited for mountain biking, but I don't think I'd subject my kid to the bumps of off road, anyway.
|How bad is it?||pmf1|
Feb 4, 2003 7:48 AM
|I have my first kid due in early July. All I hear from people is crap like "it'll change your life", "get ready for lots of sleepless nights" or worse "better just hang up the bike".
My wife and I both work and I plan to keep riding. I can commute to work and hopefully get some riding in the weekends. Am I screwed?
I tried real hard to talk her into a puppy, but it didn't work.
|How bad is it? Not that BAD||gtscottie|
Feb 4, 2003 8:04 AM
|All you have to do is accidently turn the wrong way on your way home from work on Friday night and walla your long ride of the week. So you aren't screwed you just have to be more creative with your time.|
|Don't listen to them||RJF|
Feb 4, 2003 9:32 AM
|I heard all the same stuff when we had our first kid. It's rubbish. Some people chose to stop living when they have a kid but that doesn't mean you have to. My wife and I still do the same things we did before having a kid. I still ride just as much, but I maybe do a little more road riding vs. mountain biking. I get my weekend rides in either early in the morning or during nap times. I drag my daughter all over town in a Burley (we do not own a car). Like someone else said, you just need to be a bit creative.|
|Diito,the ones that protest the loudist are the same ones that||SnowBlind|
Feb 4, 2003 9:49 AM
|I would never leave my child alone with for a New York minute.
The ones that say "you are going to have so much fun, it's so rewarding" are the people I think are the best parents.
My son is due on Feb 28th so it is very close. The wife and I have decided that I can commute as much as I want for my rides and do 2 or 3 group rides a month. More depending on how things go.
Granted this is a broad generalization, but I do find it to be true in my small part of the world.
Also, I hear that 1 year is about the minimum for Burley. Any one got a recommendation on this one?
|that's about right, but you need to clear it with...||ColnagoFE|
Feb 4, 2003 10:13 AM
|your pediatrician. kids are very rewarding, but there ARE times that you wonder why the heck you ever got into this mess. those parents that say everything is totally smooth sailing are blowing smoke up your butt. how blissful is sleep deprivation or listening to a sick baby cry for hours on end? changing countless diapers in said sleep deprived state? and then when they get older dealing with disciplinary issues and saying the very things that your parents said to you when you were a kid (that you always told yourself you'd never say). the good always outweighs the bad though from my experience. have fun and don't worry so much about the bike. it'll be there for you.|
|It's doable but your life will change||ColnagoFE|
Feb 4, 2003 9:48 AM
|i do think it'll change your life. no reason to stop riding, but your time will have to be scheduled much more than you have it now if you plan on getting regular rides in and riding around dragging a burley is not the same as having a normal training ride. the one thing i have yet been able to to convey to my single friends is that i rarely can be spontaneous like they are. if you don't schedule it it won't happen. and if you are a single person riding with a person who has kids you better be on time. nothing i hate worse than waiting for a friend to get out of bed after a late night when they promised a ride at a certain time.|
|How bad is it?||dmilkerson|
Feb 4, 2003 10:21 AM
|I know exactly where you are coming from. Before we had our now 9 month old, we were both into triathlons, doing running races etc. That's what our spare time was dedicated to. When she was pregnant, one of the things I kept thinking about, was, when will I get to ride and work out? I kept playing out the scenarios in my head. "I'll get up early, ride, then she'll go when I get back" Stuff like that. But the one thing I didn't think about was how much this new little being was going to affect the order of what is truly important in life. Believe me, you can't even begin to conceive it, so I'm not even going to try. A wise friend of mine said to me "You know, you're obsessing about when you're going to get your workout in, but you know what? You may not want to. You may want to spend time with that new baby"
Now, I'm not saying that you are going have to give up riding. No way. Most of the naysayers out there that tell you that you won't be riding your bike anymore are people for whom working out is not a part of their daily lives. Once it's been a part of your life, you will figure out ways to make it work.
At first it will be tough and you may have to give it up for a very little while. It is a major change in your life and you'll have to adjust to this new person affecting every aspect of your life. But once you have a schedule figured out you'll be fine. When my daughter was born, I stopped riding for a while and just ran, either over lunch or first thing in the morning. Once my wife had fully recovered, she started running and we'd take turns watching her. Since she's been born, I've done a duathlon, a 15 K trail run, a marathon and several road running races. My wife has raced with her while pushing her in a jogging stroller (Best gift ever!! Babyjogger II). She even won her age group in one of the! Now my wife is training for an olympic distance triathlon. And you know what? Our daughter still takes up 95% of our day and we love it. You just have to be flexible as to when you can work out and make every workout count. No junk workouts. Every workout should have a purpose. You'll also apreciate that time to yourself more than ever, believe me.
Stop worrying, you'll figure it out. Your child will change your life for the better. There is no way I would ever go back. She has added so much to my life that I truly can't imagine life without her.
Congratulations! You are about to experience a wonderful change in your life.
Feb 4, 2003 10:51 AM
|Now I hear stories from other parents who say their kids slept through the night from the beginning, and I just don't believe them. The first couple of months were really, really hard. I maybe averaged 4 hours of sleep, and that was all broken up into 30 minute segments. We were dying from sleep deprivation. Not only was there little time left for riding, but I was so tired I almost didn't want to.
Recently (7 mos. now), it's better, but now I find myself wanting to spend time with the little guy; we have a lot of fun. Riding is maybe 4-5 hours a week, at best. But, I'm resigned to living with that. I think of my riding being mere maintenance mode now. No plans for racing or long events. But, we wanted the baby, and time with him is more important than riding.
I've been riding at lunch time, which allows at least 50-100 miles a week at a time that doesn't take away from time with the baby. I go out at lunch and go hard, really hard, doing stop light drag races for the first and last few miles, and either hard tempo or intervals in the middle. That helps.
The Computrainer helps, too, especially on weekends when I need to be with the baby, but still want to get a little riding in. I put him on the floor by me, and he plays or sleeps; I'm lucky to get 30-45 minutes in, though, before he needs something.
I think that if you value time with the baby, the biking is screwed for a while. You'll probably find that that's ok, though.
|And as we all know from Doug's transformation....||shawndoggy|
Feb 4, 2003 11:54 AM
|Nobody can explain to you what lessons you'll learn.
Remember this thread Doug?
GK "help me make the arguments re: cycling with baby" 7/18/02 9:30am
The life of a new parent is full of all kinds of twists and turns and changes. Some folks say it's no sweat and life goes on as before. I sure don't get that... for me it was the biggest change of my adult life.
But for all of us it's different and as much advice as you get you won't "know" what it's like until you know what it's like.
Good luck and congratulations! Enjoy the ride.
|right; you never know||DougSloan|
Feb 4, 2003 3:13 PM
|As you can see, I did both. Having multiple ways to solve problems and being flexible helps.
|re:We used a Bugger. Do they still make them?||dzrider|
Feb 4, 2003 7:20 AM
|My sister-in-law won it in a raffle and it worked real well on the roads, paved or dirt. My kids wouldn't sit up in it until they were about 15 months and I was concerned that lying down probably defeated the seat belts. I thought it worked best when they were 2 and 3.|
|you get what you pay for--plus a really cool concept trailer pix||ColnagoFE|
Feb 4, 2003 7:33 AM
|Burleys are great. My burley solo is going on 7 years old now and on the second kid. If you are just gonna tool around bike paths on the weekends any trailer will work, but if you're gonna use it a lot, get a good one. I wish they made this trailer (pic attached). How cool would this one be?|
|My wife got the Burley for me on my b'day||brider|
Feb 4, 2003 10:06 AM
|I love it. My main criteria was that it had to attach to the frame at the rear wheel, as I ride a Softride. I mainly use it with my single-speed around town, but it works just as well with the geared road machine. Adjusts to any rear triangle configuration. |
However, if you're gonna take your son off-road, then by all means, wait 'til he's about 18 months at least. He won't have the neck strength to resist the bumps. Also, more bumps increase the risk of a roll-over.
|re: The BABY resistance factor-Trailer Suggestions||Tarball|
Feb 4, 2003 1:41 PM
|It seems there are a lot of us in this boat.
My daughter is 1 & I've had her in a Burley since she was 2 months. I put the car seat in the trailer & went. I know Burley wouldn't reccomend it, but it worked great. Before I put her in there, I put the seat in & ran some tests to see what might happen. I decided it was perfectly safe for riding around the neighborhood & bike paths.
As for mountain biking, I wouldn't count on doing any with your kid for quite a while.
Sure the Burley's are more expensive, but they'll retain about %75 of the purchase price on the resale market. They have a great reputation & warranty policy. And if you're putting your kid in there, wouldn't youwant the best you can get your hands on?
|re: The BABY resistance factor-Trailer Suggestions||Tarball|
Feb 4, 2003 1:51 PM
I have a buddy with a Burley that will sell it to you for $240 including shipping.
|Congratulations -- A Trailer Is Generally GREAT...||Gregory Taylor|
Feb 4, 2003 2:04 PM
|We bought a Burley when our son was about a year old...he loved it. Dragged his butt all over the place using my beater as the locomotive. We then graduated to an Adams "Trail-A-Bike" attachment when he was about 5. Again, this worked like a champ. I'm also proud to say that the little maniac got rid of the training wheels at 4 years old, and has been turning Dad's hair gray since. He's now nine, and eyeing a fairly serious BMX bike. Hell, I want one too...
The Burley isn't the best for single-track. It works just fine on relatively smooth dirt roads, but it can bounce around. Common wisdom is that you shouldn't put really young kids in a trailer because their necks cannot support their noggins when you bump around, even on a paved road.
I don't know about the Instep, but one of the plusses for the Burley was that it had some attachments that turned it into a jog stroller. Still, it's pretty expensive.
No, you are not screwed with riding. You will just have to re-order your life a bit. Believe me, the effort is worth it. I actually started riding more seriously after my son was born. Granted, I don't do a century every weekend like some do (or did), but I've still averaged about 7,500 miles a year for a while now. And the times that I've had to pass on a ride because of a child care (or mom-care) issue, I've usually wound up having more fun anyway. Being a sneaky SOB, I used to take the kid to the bike store when it was my turn to watch him....
|No experience with instep, but the bell I bought||djg|
Feb 4, 2003 3:44 PM
|at Costco for about 150 bucks a few years ago has been fine. Easy to set up and take down. Pretty light. Tubular AL frame and 5-point harnesses. Rolls fine.
I'm not sure about off road riding, which might be quite a shock for a little tyke, not to mention a source of handling issues--we generally stick to MUTs (actually, we have a trail-a-bike now).
For us, the trailer was a great way to get outside and do something together, and to give me a bit of a ride on days when simply taking off was a problem. OTOH, my daughter was not happy to sit back there indefinitely. She loved it for a while. She was fine for a little while after that. But 15-20 miles was our max. You can do more if you take breaks to stop and play, but then you're taking breaks. YMMV.