|Value of this Full Campy Record bike? any opinions?||insidebirds|
Feb 1, 2003 5:46 AM
|my local dealer offered me a nice discount on a Mercier Draco-Euro which is full Camy Record with 10-speed. Nice looking bikes that lists over $2200 - has Reynolds 853 frame and Reynolds Ouzo Fork.
Does anyone know enough about today's Campy to have an opinion on what this bike is worth?
|what is looks like||insidebirds|
Feb 1, 2003 5:48 AM
|this is the image I grapped off cyclesmercier.com
I do like the looks a lot in person - two tone red fade is hot and classic at the same time
|Also consider ...||GrabTheBarsAndHurt|
Feb 1, 2003 7:19 AM
|the frame is considered the "back bone" of the bike. Don't buy a bike just because it has Record on it. Consider the materials and build quality of the frame (this bike claims to be Reynolds 853, but a common trick is to spec one tube on the bike as a certain level, then claim the whole frame is that tube). And as C40 said, the bars, stem, and other hanging parts could be pretty cheap substitutes as well.
It seems to me you are looking for a good all around bike that isn't going to break the bank. If that's the case, may I suggest you look into something with Chorus on it, anyway. In *MY* opinion (get ready for the flames here), Chorus is built to almost the same quality standards and performance as Record, but isn't made to be the ultra-lightweight racing set up. Subsequently, given identical riding patterns, the Chorus will last longer **. If you look around, it's not difficult to buy a bike in the same price range with Chorus that would get you a nicer frame, nicer parts, and most likely, a more durable all around bike.
** NOTE: almost anything Campagnolo lasts for freaking ever, even Record. I'm not saying Record will wear out quickly, I'm just saying Chorus will last longer.
Also, I do agree that Chorus cranks aren't constructed as well as Record. If you are 190 lbs + and decide to go with Chorus, it might make sense to upgrade to Record cranks.
Here: http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=AL%2D90+2001+Frame&vendorCode=GIOS&major=1&minor=1 - nice aluminum bike, and with Chorus would be equal to the price of the Mercier
Feb 1, 2003 6:06 AM
|A typical Record 10 speed kit which include all parts except the frame/fork will run about $1650 with Mavic open-pro rims and moderate level components. Go to excelsports.com for an example of a record level kit.
Take a close look at the bike. Does it have wheels with Campy Record hubs? Is the headset Record? These are two places where prebuilt bikes substitute cheaper parts. Prebulits may also use relatively cheap stems, bars, saddles, rims and tires to further trim the cost.
Feb 1, 2003 7:24 PM
|If the frame is good quality, and the base grouppo is good quality, then it's ok to spec cheaper parts like stem, post, bars etc. to meet a certain price point. It makes a bike affordable in the short term so that you can upgrade the rest as time and money permit.|
|Not Wild about the 1in head set or the wheels||Ambishawn|
Feb 1, 2003 8:48 PM
|I suppose it depends on how much you can get the bike for? Personally Id rather have better wheels and Chourus or Ultergra than Record those wheels and a 1 steerer limiting fork choices. I suppose you could go with a Devolution head set and run a all carbon fork with 1 1/8 steerer. Record or Chourus is too much for such a frame, fork and wheels if you ask me.|| |