|Help me decide which bike to get Gunnar Sport or Rambouillet||abelson|
Jan 31, 2003 4:11 PM
|I am stuck between these 2. The way I see it the advantges of the Gunnar are its about 2 hundred bucks cheaper (MY LBS will give me a nice deal on the frame) I think it is somewhat lighter. And I could get the bike about a month sonner (not that missing out on having the bike in March in Wisconsin would be that big of a deal).
On the other hand I love the look of the Rambouillet, there is something about a lugged frame. I don't know which rides better because I can't try either one. Whichever one I get, I will set it up with the same components (ultegra triple) and about the same way (bars about level with the seat).
The downside to the rambouillet is I don't know if I am ready to be labeled a retro-grouch at only 26 (just kidding).
I do not race. I just want a bike that I can ride comfortably for long distances (centuries -and maybe if I get real crazy brevets) at a decent pace and that will last along time for about 2 grand.
at least I already got my new saddle -- Brooks B17 Champion Special in British Racing Green with Copper rails -- quite a sight.
What are your opinions?
|re: Help me decide which bike to get Gunnar Sport or Rambouillet||Trent in WA|
Jan 31, 2003 4:51 PM
|I haven't seen the Gunnar Sport, though it looks like a really nice bike. The Rambouillets I've seen are gorgeous, and the people I know who have them think they're the best thing since sliced bread. I'd probably go with the Rambouillet--divide the $200 extra over the time you'll have the bike and skip a soda a month in penance, and you'll come out even.
Jan 31, 2003 5:07 PM
|Never ridden either, but the Rambouillet is such a sweet looking bike it would be too hard to pass up if it's in the running.
|Buy what you really want||AaronL|
Jan 31, 2003 5:07 PM
|One thing I've learned over the years is to get what you really want from the start. If not, you'll sit around and compare what you DID get with what you WANTED to get. Many times you'll end up selling what you initially got to buy what you initially wanted, all at a loss for money. At least I did/have.
If the more expensive of the two is a viable option and it fits as well or better than the Gunnar, go for it and enjoy.
|Do you want Art or do you want function ?||MR_GRUMPY|
Jan 31, 2003 6:15 PM
|If you decide on the Gunnar, check to see if you like any of the colors of the month. With those, you get a free clearcoat. You can also get your name on the top tube for only $30 in the off season. If you want to go for the retro lug look, you can't go wrong with the Rambouillet. Heron bikes, like Gunnar used to be made at Waterford in the past, but I can't say for sure if they still are.|
|Do you want Art or do you want function ?||Heron Todd|
Feb 1, 2003 8:33 AM
|>Heron bikes, like Gunnar used to be made at Waterford in the past, but I can't say for sure if they still are.
Yep, still made by Waterford to our specs.
LaSalle, IL 815-223-1776
|re: Help me decide which bike to get Gunnar Sport or Rambouillet||lorenmb|
Jan 31, 2003 10:00 PM
|My objectives were very similar a year ago. I bought a Gunnar Sport and have no regrets. I rode my first century on it and then three more last summer. It is a sweet bike to ride. I went from a heavy old cross bike to the Gunnar and the first ride was a thrill. I didn't realize that there could be that much difference in the feel of a bicycle. I was hopeful, but didn't really buy all of the comments that were posted here about differences in frames. I was wrong, there is a difference.
I used an existing well used Brooks saddle. The combination is perfect. I am more comfortable after four hours on the bike than after four hours in a typical automobile.
I haven't seen or ridden the Rambouillet. The pictures are beautiful. I won't try to be objective because this is the first good bicycle I have ridden a long distance. But I don't have any reason to be looking for another one. I'm satisfied.
I started out looking for a less expensive bike. I got the Sport because it is really what I wanted. I like the advice posted here earlier. If the difference in cost is manageable, get what you want. You won't regret spending the extra money. But I don't think you will regret getting the Gunnar either. I didn't.
By the way, my old cross bike is lugged. I like the clean, lean lines of the Gunnar. Lugs didn't appeal to my 60 year old tastes.
|re: Help me decide which bike to get Gunnar Sport or Rambouillet||Heron Todd|
Feb 1, 2003 8:39 AM
|You can't go wrong with either one. Both are very high quality and will ride great. I'm a sucker for lugs myself, but the Gunnar is a really smart design. There are some minor differences in geometry to consider, but they are both similar. I have a brief comparison between the Rambouillet, Atlantis, and Herons in the FAQ section of our website. It doesn't cover the Gunnars, but it might be a good start. http://www.heronbicycles.com/faq.html
I think that the bottom line with any quality bike is to choose the one that turns you on. For some, it's lugs. For others, it's carbon and titanium. Some like the small craft builders. Others like the big names found in the European peloton. Make sure you get the one that makes you the most excited about riding.
LaSalle, IL 815-223-1776
|Hardcore Atlantis lover says, "Oooh, that's a hard one."||retro|
Feb 1, 2003 12:31 PM
|I don't know much about the Gunnar--love the looks--but I've put about 4000 miles on an Atlantis, which is very similar to the Ram (a little slacker angles and heavier tubing). The quality is exactly as Grant describes it, the paint and finish details are terrific, the company's great to deal with...there really hasn't been one thing about the whole experience that I could improve. They even worked with me when I was trying to build it up on the cheap using parts I already had, trying to help me figure which crank etc. would work with that frame (I ended up buying a Sugino from Rivendell anyway). You still have to make your own decision, but if it comes down to questions about service or advice, you don't have to worry about Riv.|
|re: good choices, all||crosscut|
Feb 1, 2003 11:00 PM
|Actually, I would throw the Heron into the mix, also. I know exactly what you're trying to achieve. Waterford built bikes, like the Heron and the Gunnar have excellent ride qualities. I love the way the Heron looks and rides, and the 853 tubes on the Gunnar provides a lighter bike but with very nice ride quality. I've ridden my buddy's Heron a lot, and I own a Gunnar Roadie, which is 853 and very comfortable. I don't know how the Ram rides. Personally, I don't like the Ram color, and I believe it will be heavier than the Heron and Gunnar.|
|I made my decision||abelson|
Feb 2, 2003 8:04 AM
|I decided to go with the Gunnar. I like the fact that it is a little lighter. I think the Rambouillet may be more bike then I need and I am not thrilled with that orange color. After looking at the Geometry I also think that the Gunnar will be a better fit and I was wrong about the price difference it will be about 300 not 200 cheaper.
I am going to order the Gunnar next week -- I think I will go with the color of the month "Tusk"
I did seriously consider the Heron but I decided against it because I like the ability to run the long reach brakes and attach a rack using the braze ons.
Thanks for the comments
Mar 15, 2003 9:41 PM
|I just ordered a Gunnar yesterday. How about a follow up report??? Cool pictures? I chose the Gunnar over a Lemond Zurich by the slimmest of margins. Mostly I decided I wanted to try Campy so I got the Gunnar with Centaur. Damn that Zurich was REALLY nice though. I wish I had the cash to buy both. Its hard when you really love both.|| |