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Road bike set up for long rides(13 posts)

Road bike set up for long ridesSeth1
Jan 31, 2003 3:20 PM
For those of you who do non-racing long rides/touring (e.g. PBP brevet series; double centuries, etc.), what are your thoughts on aerobars? Do you use them? Is it stupid not to use them? I've never tried them before and am considering picking some up for longer rides.
Sorry for the double postingSeth1
Jan 31, 2003 3:23 PM
yeah I use themcyclopathic
Jan 31, 2003 3:58 PM
esp riding alone in headwind, on open gradual downhills, to catch stronger rider or to drag paceline. They're about the only thing which lets you keep up with tandems on downhills. ;)

Some riders use them some don't. I don't use them as much as I thought I would. To use more you have to train to ride in aero position. Don't expect miracle overnight.
re: Road bike set up for long ridesDougSloan
Jan 31, 2003 4:01 PM
I've used them a great deal. If do really long rides, they are almost essential for comfort, if not speed.

They are banned for PBP (control issues in groups), so if you are training for that, I'd not use them and get used to not having them.

Just never use them when drafting. Big no no.

Doug
correct..cyclopathic
Jan 31, 2003 4:46 PM
still no can do in PBP/apperently insurance requirement. Not that it will be such a big deal with 3,500 starters. They're legal in RUSA brevets and BMB.
re: Road bike set up for long ridesmerlint3
Jan 31, 2003 4:48 PM
I have used them, (Syntace bars), and they do reduce your effort with a better aerodynamic body position. I miss the real estate though on the top of the handlebar when climbing a hill even though one can just grab the elbow rests when climbing.

As has been noted above they can be a hazard in group rides. My worst accident happened when some one using them cut over into my front wheel. I stay FAR away from those using them or when passing someone on them.
Bike fitempacher6seat
Jan 31, 2003 8:49 PM
Slapping on a pair of aerobars and expecting them to do anything for you is misleading. By using aerobars, you will be streching your body forward and you might find yourself going slower, or running out of energy because you will be in a position that is difficult to hold. Certain adjustments, such as moving your seat forward, may be needed to re-dial in your fit. However, this will steepen the seat tube angle, which may have effects on your climbing.

A popular option is the shorty style bars, such as the Profile Jammer. These seem to be prefered on bikes with road geometry as opposed to tri geometry because you will need to tamper with your seat position less, and apparently you can sit up a bit more on them, while still remaining aero (however the hell that works :) ).

Do your research, maybe get advise from an LBS or two regarding fit, and good luck! They're lots of fun when you get the hang of them, and they really impress the ladies :)
that dependsJS Haiku Shop
Feb 3, 2003 6:45 AM
on how the ride is setup. i'm in such a position that between resting on the aerobars and riding in the drops, it's about a wash. then again, i do have an exceptionally compact setup on my bar-fitted bike.

not to totally disagree, but it's not a black or white option. you can have a setup in-between that favors all styles of riding/positions on the bike.

on both rides this weekend (75 and 35) i spent equal time on drops, hoods, and aero bars, and minimal time on tops. comfy in all positions.
Helps for headwinds too. . .js5280
Feb 1, 2003 9:49 AM
I have aerobars on my bike for comfort and for aero purposes. When there's a good headwind, they're a God send, especially on long rides. Also really nice to have another position to go to. I use the Airstyrkes with the pop-up arms so the bar tops are still available. Thought I'd take them on and off periodically, but I just keep them on the bike since I don't do events where they are forbidden. Never use them in a group regardless if pulling, can't signal obsticles easily, or drafting, no benefit unless crashing the paceline is a benefit. If you're drafting, there's no benefit to be extra aero anyways.
I like my boys so I'd never use them outside competitionPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Feb 1, 2003 12:00 PM
I like my boys so on long rides I have never used aerobars. The thing about rides is they aren't a competition... it doesn't matter how long it takes you to go how far. Its training or just an enjoyable activity. Now if you were a triathlete or doing RAAM then you'd have to train with your aerobars.

Then on top of this ideal aerobar position requires raising your saddle up and forward about a cm. This throws off your position when your not in the aerobars so I don't see the benefit.

Nick
PodiumBound.ca
I like my boys so I'd never use them outside competitioncyclopathic
Feb 1, 2003 6:39 PM
Nick,

it isn't only about competition it also about "having time to stop and smell the roses". Many "longer" 24hr+ rides results in serious sleep depletion, and going faster is one way to avoid it.

With respect to position and "boyz" have you ever heard about "Big Slam"? here're a few links from John Cobb for your nigh-nigh reading:

http://www.bicyclesports.com/technical/aerodynamics/bigslam.html
http://www.bicyclesports.com/technical/aerodynamics/bigslam2.html
http://www.bicyclesports.com/technical/aerodynamics/bigslam3.html
Huh?DougSloan
Feb 1, 2003 9:23 PM
What are you implying by "I like my boys?" That aerobars make you dysfunctional? Man, I thought only idiot journalists who never really did research thought that.

How long are your long rides, anyway?

Doug
re: Road bike set up for long ridesJS Haiku Shop
Feb 3, 2003 6:48 AM
yes they're useful for different seated positions and different hand positions on "long" rides. also provide more "real estate" for affixing lights and other chi-chi afterthoughts (handlebar bell, small sponge bob squarepants mojo, etc.). just kidding about sponge bob.

I prefer the profile airstrykes, as the armrests flip-up and give access to the whole handlebar.

using them in a group or paceline is a punishable offense.