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BS vs HS(8 posts)

BS vs HSripper
Jan 29, 2003 11:18 PM
Someone help me understand the benefits of wearing Bibshorts. I have put in many miles wearing Halfshorts without any problems i could imagine being fixed by bibs. Then again, maybe im missing one of the miracle fixes to my snail pace.
I like the freedom of bibsRatite_Power
Jan 30, 2003 12:06 AM
I got sick of the cutting of regular shorts into my midriff and constantly yanking them up and stuff--I tried bibs and love em to death. they just feel alot more free and slick--everything stays put in the lower regions better, if ya know what I mean. When I stand on the pedals and sit back down again over and over everything is just nicely adjusted still. That's my 2 cents.
Pro's and con's of bibs by Fred MathenyTig
Jan 30, 2003 7:27 AM
From Fred Matheny at http://roadbikerider.com/qa79.htm

COACH FRED: Bib shorts have several advantages, some more vital than others:

Bibs hold your chamois exactly where it should be. To minimize the risk of saddle abrasions and sores, the shorts liner (chamois) should be snug against your crotch. If shorts are looser, the liner can move. You'll get chafed in the same way that overly large hiking boots can cause blisters on your feet. The chamois could bunch or wrinkle, too, causing irritation. Bibs help keep the shorts' crotch firmly against your crotch.

Bibs keep your shorts up. Non-bib shorts can pull down enough to expose your lower back to the wind. This is most apt to happen in a low, aerodynamic riding position. Worst-case scenario -- you treat your riding companions to a full-fledged plumber's crack. At least they won't sit on your wheel anymore.

Bibs look better off the bike. The seat won't be so baggy. Bike shorts are cut to fit correctly in a forward-leaning position. Stand up straight and the material in back can sag, making it look like you need your diaper changed. Bibs pull up the slack and keep your butt's profile sleek.

Bibs are more comfortable at the waist. They don't need anything around your middle to hold them up. Elastic waistbands or drawstrings can feel restrictive during deep breathing and like a tourniquet when riding away from a food stop.

Bibs mean no hitching. You don't have to tug at your waistband to get your shorts back up where they belong.

But before you rush out to Bibs R Us and spend your next paycheck, here's the other side to the story -- the disadvantages.

Bibs are hotter. As you point out, bibs cover your midsection and can hold in more body heat. That's not bad in winter, but most miles are ridden in conditions that are already hot enough.

Bib straps can irritate some riders' skin.

Bibs may not fit tall or hefty people well. The straps aren't adjustable. If the top is too small or too short, the shorts may feel too restrictive.

Bibs make pit stops more difficult. When taking a "natural break" (as Phil Liggett likes to say), you can't just pull down the shorts. First your jersey must come off. For women this is a hassle on every stop. For men, only on some stops. But men will still have a tough time urinating when wearing bibs cut high in front, as most seem to be. If you ever spot a guy in the bushes bent forward 90 degrees, you'll know what type of shorts he's wearing. A fortune awaits the first company that makes bibs with an effective fly.

When are bibs not needed? I'd say the only time they're completely useless is under a pair of tights that have their own bib straps or suspenders. In this case, the tights hold up the shorts.
Free anatomy tip53T
Jan 30, 2003 7:45 AM
Pull up one leg of your bib shorts to pee, works great. Girls are on their own, I have no advice for them.
You have to pull them up??? LOL (credit goes to Doug Sloan for that answer) -nmTig
Jan 30, 2003 8:16 AM
or be a Tri-Geek: Just let it go, it's only water! nmSpunout
Jan 30, 2003 8:24 AM
No comparisonRJF
Jan 30, 2003 8:18 AM
Once I tried bibs, I never went back. Just soooo much more comfortable, and with a better fit. Of course, everyone is built differently, so what is comfortable for me may drive someone else crazy.

As for the natural break, never had any problem just pushing the bibs down a bit at the waist and pulling it out. 'Course, if your bibs come up a bit more in the front than mine, or if you have a really tiny weenie, that may not work for you. ;)
Comparative ease of the "over the top method"ms
Jan 30, 2003 8:26 AM
I, too, tried bibs and never went back to half shorts. Insofar as the "natural break" is concerned, I favor the over the top method versus the pant leg method. Assos bibs are the easiest -- they are cut lower in front than other brands of bibs I own. Over the top can be done with PI Microsensors, but not as easily. My Castelli's are a little too high (or I am a little too short).