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Dean vs. ???(9 posts)

Dean vs. ???Psychler
Jan 25, 2003 2:16 PM
I have contacted Dean, and it looks that they may assist me in upgrading from my basic ElDiente to a carbon stay, lighter version. My current frame weighs 3.7, I would like a lighter frame to build on. NOW, here's a question: I rode a Cannondale for years...light, fast. The Ti frame is definetly smoother on the body and feels more stable at speed and decents, but...I remember accelerating faster and climbing better on the Cannondale. Could this be me, and my old age (51), or does material really matter? I am really wondering if the 2 lbs lighter and the frame itself allowed for quicker climbs and better acceleration. Which drives me to the question of looking into alum. again...gosh I am getting myself NUTS!...
re: Dean vs. ???nelsbruce
Jan 25, 2003 4:00 PM
what size frame do you have i did not think they were that heavy
I like aluminum bikes.Leroy
Jan 25, 2003 4:58 PM
My Cannondale [caad5] is my favorite bike. Maybe you ought to try a new one. You may be able to get a pretty good deal on one, too. The ride suits me fine - and I'm older than you are. My other bikes are steel. Material matters, but what really matters is who made the bike.
You're not NutsGregory Taylor
Jan 25, 2003 6:06 PM
I've noticed roughly the same thing. I own a CAAD3 Cannondale (bought in '97) and a new Dean El Diente CTI. The Dean is smooooth, fast, and stable. The Cannondale feels more like a race/crit bike - stiff, loves to sprint, very nimble. I love them both. The main difference is that the Dean is so smooth that it feels painted to the road, while the Cannondale makes you want to go out and tear up the road....
Carbon stays are lighter?crosscut
Jan 25, 2003 7:11 PM
You might want to do a little research on whether the carbon stays will actually make the bike significantly lighter. In fact, you may find they make the bike heavier, and STIFFER, which is what is attractive to you about the C'dale. I'd keep your current Dean for long rides, and maybe get a new CADD5 for short, peppy rides.
Carbon stays are lighter?cogmaster
Jan 25, 2003 8:14 PM
I have custom Dean Ti bike in a semi-compact configuration with the carbon stays. The carbon stays do shave about a third of a lb and do have a noticeable stiftening affect. The combination of compact and carbon creates aluminum stiffness and power transfer with the vibration dampening characteristics of Ti. If you want a more mellow ride, skip the carbon and stay all Ti.
Carbon stays save 1/3 lbs. lighter???Nessism
Jan 26, 2003 11:34 AM
I don't believe there is any weight savings between regular Ti seat stays and a Columbus Carve setup. The Carve requires a fairly large diameter upper attachment tube and more complicated/heavier dropout design. Overall the Carve may even be heavier than Ti but I'm not sure.

Don't confuse Deans overall frame weight information to mean the Carve is lighter.

Ed
I have custom Dean Ti bike in a semi-compact configuration with the carbon stays. The carbon stays do shave about a third of a lb and do have a noticeable stiftening affect. The combination of compact and carbon creates aluminum stiffness and power transfer with the vibration dampening characteristics of Ti. If you want a more mellow ride, skip the carbon and stay all Ti.cogmaster
Jan 25, 2003 8:14 PM
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cogmaster
Jan 25, 2003 8:17 PM
approved