|down tube shifter||raleigh rider|
Jan 20, 2003 8:28 AM
|Just watched a video of the '97 Tour of Flanders and noticed that Jalabert had a Shimano downtube shifter for his front derailleur on his carbon fibre Look. He was riding for ONCE at this time. I thought this was just a Lance TDF thing, but I guess it goes back some years.
Also, I read in Cycle Sport that Campy has just designed a complete drivetrain with an intergrated downtube shifter for the front derailleur.
|It's as old as STI,||TJeanloz|
Jan 20, 2003 8:35 AM
|The practice of using a downtube shifter on the front is as old as STI - once somebody realized that the STI unit weighed more than the downtube shifter + brake lever.|
|If I remember correctly...||Cima Coppi|
Jan 20, 2003 9:31 AM
|Andy Hampsten was one of the first to be seen with this combination on the climbs in the Giro and the TdF in the early '90's.
|The January Cyclesport is filled with pictures||Dave Hickey|
Jan 20, 2003 8:36 AM
|of JaJa riding LOOK's with 1 downtube shifter. I thought it was a Lance thing also.|
|I like it better||DougSloan|
Jan 20, 2003 8:39 AM
|I actually like a downtube shifter for the front, anyway. It's much more positive to me. Around here, you tend to either go up for a while or down for a while, so you aren't going back and forth on the rings all the time, anyway.
Integrated does work much better for the back, though, except on time trial bikes.
|What downtube shift lever do you use? nm||bsdc|
Jan 20, 2003 10:39 AM
Jan 20, 2003 10:43 AM
|I have used both Campy and Shimano. They work equally well.
I tried a dt lever for the rear, but it would not hold against the rd spring. Kept pulling out of gear, especially in the big cog.
|Let me rephrase my question||bsdc|
Jan 20, 2003 10:57 AM
|What brand and model do you use? I don't see that Campy currently makes a downtube shifter.|
|Campy no longer||DougSloan|
Jan 20, 2003 11:04 AM
|This is at Branford's site:
Campagnolo no longer produces any downtube shifters.
If they change their mind we will let you know and post them here."
Shimano still makes them:
Jan 20, 2003 11:11 AM
|Shimano levers on a Campy bike! We better keep this one quiet. I won't say a word.|
|not me; are you kidding?||DougSloan|
Jan 20, 2003 11:33 AM
|I actually snagged a Campy set before they stopped making them. I had a Shimano lever on the EV2 when it had Dura Ace.
For the front, it doesn't make a bit of a difference. There's no indexing. The Campy lever seemed to be a little more durable looking, where it has some brass parts compared to the Shimano plastic (but probably heavier, too).
If you put a Shimano lever on, I doubt anyone would ever know. The logos are really tiny on these things.
|What is an "integrated" down tube shifter? nm||bsdc|
Jan 20, 2003 10:38 AM
|probably means "indexed" nm||DougSloan|
Jan 20, 2003 10:43 AM
|isn't the point (besides weight) to be non-indexed?||Spunout|
Jan 20, 2003 11:19 AM
|Besides, this is a Shimano problem with the left shifter. I can micro-adjust the front just fine with Ergos.|
Jan 20, 2003 11:35 AM
|For the rear, they allow indexed or friction modes. The fronts are not indexed at all. No need -- you just slam it one way or the other.
|both modes||raleigh rider|
Jan 20, 2003 6:16 PM
|FYI - Cycle Sport reports Campy's new downtube shifter in their Sept., 2002 issue, p. 98 at the "BIKE MONTH" section.|| |