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Compact Frame for Long Distance Riding?(7 posts)

Compact Frame for Long Distance Riding?Scummer
Jan 17, 2003 11:50 AM
I do primarily long distance (100 mile) riding - no racing per se, and I'm considering a new ti bike. I see some good deals on compacts, but I've never even been on one. Does a compact frame make any sense for an older (46 yrs) guy who does Brevets and centuries?
re:I see lots of Serotta and Merlin ti's on brevets in N.E.dzrider
Jan 17, 2003 12:05 PM
Few are compacts. I suspect this is because many of the riders bought their bikes b4 compacts became common. I have no idea whether a compact frame would be better or worse or any different at all.
re: Compact Frame for Long Distance Riding?Bruno S
Jan 17, 2003 12:40 PM
I do centuries on a compact Ti. In general, Ti bikes are good for long rides. The compact frame has the disadvantage that if you ride a small size it may be difficult to carry two large water bottles. I have an XL so no problems there. The seatpost will be long. If made also of Ti it can flex and make the ride more comfortable.
re: Compact Frame for Long Distance Riding?fbg111
Jan 17, 2003 1:14 PM
Never ridden a compact Ti, but do ride a compact Alu TCR2. Wouldn't recommend mine for long distance, unless your entire route is covered with smoothly paved roads. Compact Ti is most likely much more comfortable, especially the Merlins and Serottas with hourglass and carbon seat stays. Definitely ride before buying.
re: Compact Frame for Long Distance Riding?cogmaster
Jan 17, 2003 6:02 PM
I am a 44 year old guy with a compact frame with carbon rear end. A compact frame will stiften the bike and increase power transfer. I have found the carbon stays to enhance the power transfer and hence stiffness. If you are looking for a compromise, skip the carbon stays as the Ti stays will improve the vibration dampening better. I do have to say that a compact frame in the rights sizing does make a difference is power efficiency and climbing. IMO...
Makes no differenceKerry
Jan 17, 2003 6:35 PM
There is nothing specific about compact design that would make it better or worse for distance riding. All things equal (which they rarely are), the compact frame would be a little stiffer, but then the seat post is more flexy. In reality, the designer of the frame has certain goals, and that will dominate performance rather than compact vs. non-compact. As noted by another poster, if the compact means no 2nd water bottle, then that is a disadvantage unless you are a hydration pack user.
If you like longer chain stays, compact may not be the way to goTig
Jan 18, 2003 3:27 PM
Most, if not all production compact frames have racing inspired quick handling. Something with slightly longer chain stays and maybe a lower bottom bracket would be helpful on longer rides. That goes for both compact and standard frames. The slightly stiffer rear triangle of a compact could further reduce comfort, even with Ti... Unless it is a custom Ti frame built for your needs. A custom compact or standard could be tuned with specific tubing selections to dial in what you need for your weight, style, and performance. Combine that with a custom geometry, and you could end up with exactly what you want and need without any compromise (except cost!).