Jan 17, 2003 10:19 AM
|No not that kind of bootie. The kind that are supposed to keep your feet warm. It's cold this time of year 20-30f and no matter what my feet always get cold on rides over an hour. Does anybody have any strategies for beating frozen dogs in the winter? Any really good, windproof, warm booties worth coughing up the coin for. I've tried PI's amfib and Garneau's neoprene. Any others better?
|suggest chemical toe warmers nm||JS Haiku Shop|
Jan 17, 2003 10:34 AM
|Vodka, rum or gin? -nm||SnowBlind|
Jan 17, 2003 11:41 AM
|re: Bootie advice||mixinbeatz|
Jan 17, 2003 11:00 AM
|I just got a pair of these http://www.spokeswear.com/ and they are great for the money. They are thick neoprene(not waterproof) but are very well constucted. I have worn though a bunch of other brands, but these are the best contructed so far.
just my 2 bits.
|second that||JS Haiku Shop|
Jan 17, 2003 11:23 AM
|I have a pair of PKI/spokes (the same) almost 2 years old. of course, i wear wool socks and use chemical warmers, too.|
Jan 17, 2003 11:03 AM
|Well, not super-warm (it is in the 20s here in Boston), but a workable solution is:
* duct tape all the mesh/holes etc. on the outside of your shoes
* duct tape under the insole; cycling shoes usually are designed for breathability which is death in winter
* chemical heat pack under the toes of feet - 1 per shoe
* wool socks - 1 pair only - not more b/c they cut off circulation
* vapor barrier liner (from camping store) over the socks
* foot into shoe
* hiking sock with hole cut out on the bottom (for cleat) over the shoe
* standard Pearl Izumi or LG bootie over the shoe/"oversock" combo
This works for 3+ hour rides in cold weather. The trick is also not to have the shoes on too tight - no sprinting for town lines this time of year so why bother?
Jan 17, 2003 11:18 AM
|Excellent tips, may just have to try some of these. It's only forecasted to reach 10deg for a HIGH temp by monday. Brrr... It's this time of year I wished I lived in AZ or NM!
|re: Bootie advice||emptyhanded|
Jan 17, 2003 11:16 AM
|sounds like you've already tried some pretty decent shoe covers.
my only suggestions (many of which you may know or are already doing) are:
be sure that cold air isn't getting in through the cleats. on some shoes it's only thin fabric that covers the screw-holes on the inside. covering with tape sometimes helps.
make sure your shoes aren't too tight. may be reducing circulation.
drop some money on thermal socks, like prosline or assos airblock. drop even more money on the heavy duty assos shoe covers (around $70). the weather here is never cold enough for me to require that serious of gear so i don't have any firsthand experience, but from what i've heard assos is supposed to be the best cold weather gear.
reinforce the poor man's way by wrapping plastic bags around your feet before you put them in your shoe.
move to a warmer climate.
Jan 17, 2003 2:24 PM
|I know this is going to sound crazy, but for the first time this winter i tried plastic bags on my feet. my lbs tried to sell me a pair of $170 northwave winter shoes. no thanks.
a friend told me about the bag trick. first put on a light cycling sock. then put on the bag. i have used a grocery bag or a thicker zip-loc freezer bag. i usually trim the top with scissors so it doen't come above my ankle. then i put a second pair of cycling socks over the bag to secure it.
i've been an outdoorsman all my life and have followed all the "rules" about winter clothes (synthetic layers, no cotton, etc.). but i tried the plastic bag trick and it worked. i was worried that my inner sock would become drenched, air would leak in and i'd end up colder than before. my inner sock did get damp, but i was so warm i didn't notice 'til i got home.
i'm not advocating this for anyone else, but it saved me from spending $170.
Jan 17, 2003 7:06 PM
|I would never wear wool or cotton socks in Winter. I wear neoprene booties and polypro socks that i buy at the cross country ski store ($15 CDN) - if it gets REALLY cold I put a boot warmer in my shoe.
Never wool socks though.
Jan 18, 2003 3:39 PM
|One reason for wool socks (at least for camping, I've never worn them for riding) is that they hold the heat in even though they might get wet from sweat. Polypro are good too but not as warm as wool when it gets wet. They both dry very rapidly though.