|What's your dream frame?||StevieP|
Jan 16, 2003 3:44 AM
|Money no object, what is your dream frame? I know it would be a hard decision but I think I would narrow my personal choice down to the following
Fondriest Status Carb
De Rosa Titanio
|... for me, it just might be...||Akirasho|
Jan 16, 2003 3:59 AM
... cuz in this day of same ole same ole, it looks so damned unsual...
Be the bike.
Jan 16, 2003 5:57 AM
|I ran across these frames a few weeks ago and fell in lust immediately. They do have an unusual, attractive look. But with no US distributors, worries about frame warrantee, and no ride reports I was hesitant to run out and buy one. What do you know about these frames?|
|www.ital-tecno.com has 'em, I think. nm||weiwentg|
Jan 16, 2003 8:30 AM
|Deeside ships to the US...||Akirasho|
Jan 16, 2003 12:21 PM
... plus, I believe that Kuota is looking for or may already have a NA distributor...
Wow, they have sunglasses too... now that would by stylin'
Be the bike.
|ital-tecno is cheaper||weiwentg|
Jan 16, 2003 3:04 PM
|I just checked, $1300 for the Ksano frame. 1180g (50) to 1380g (60), internal cable routing, looks good, but they're too big. judging from Lennard Zinn's online size calculator, my estimated ideal seat tube length is FORTY SIX WHOLE CENTIMETERS. apparently, if I'm an aggressive rider, I need a 530mm top tube and a 120mm stem, which is 2cm more than my current position, which is in turn already stretched out.|
|I've got these sunglasses||StevieP|
Jan 17, 2003 12:31 AM
|£24 from probikekit. 5 lenses - bargain. Recommended for the money.|
|Money is no object? A C40 of course.||McAndrus|
Jan 16, 2003 5:32 AM
|I've never ridden one but all the comments I hear are raves. Once I read in Cycle Sport that pros who ride C40s for their teams (Rabobank, Mapei, etc.) tend to keep their C40s for their personal use if they transfer to other teams.
Then Museeuw comes along and says the Merckx Team SC is the best bike he's ever ridden. Hmmm...could be sponsorship-speak there but that's strong praise too.
|re: What's your dream frame?||Alpedhuez55|
Jan 16, 2003 5:49 AM
|Well I am a steel fan, so I would brobably go with either a Colnago Master X Light or Merckx MX Leader or a highend custom lugged steel like a Richard Sachs or Rivendell.
|re: What's your dream frame?||geeker|
Jan 16, 2003 6:21 AM
|Agreed on MX Leader. I'm really bummed, because there's a new built-up one on eBay right now, *in my size*, but I can't spare the money! Haven't seriously considered private builders, so can't rank.|
|re: What's your dream frame?||mike r|
Jan 16, 2003 6:32 AM
|I have last years model (2002), will have to do i suppose,,
still, would be nice to be able to get the latest model every year.
|re: What's your dream frame?||JS Haiku Shop|
Jan 16, 2003 6:33 AM
|:) :) :) !!!|
|re: What's your dream frame?||JS Haiku Shop|
Jan 16, 2003 6:34 AM
|=) =) =) !!!
|re: Sweeeeeeet !! -nm||cydswipe|
Jan 16, 2003 7:56 AM
|Derosa King (nm)||Frith|
Jan 16, 2003 6:41 AM
|2nd that motion, dead sexy wheels nm||collinsc|
Jan 16, 2003 8:29 AM
|Independent Fabrication Crown Jewel--Steel (nm)||scary slow|
Jan 16, 2003 7:20 AM
|jaded, I guess||DougSloan|
Jan 16, 2003 7:23 AM
|I don't think they matter all that much. I've had two of the arguably best in class frames, C40 and P3, and while they were cool, they didn't change the experience all that much. Anything that gets you psyched to go ride is good, I guess.
I'm on a Celeste binge. I'm repainting my Pista, which is now black, Celeste, and have 43 other Celeste bikes. I repainted the yellow/blue stiped parts and the fork of my EV2 all Celeste, and I like it much better.
My dream frame, I suppose, would be a C40 painted Celeste with Bianchi decals on it. Goofy, huh? I see Bianchi has an all carbon frame, now, though, begging for repainting...
|Have you seen the lastest issue of Cycle Sport?||Dave Hickey|
Jan 16, 2003 7:30 AM
|Good article on the Bianchi factory.|
|no; I'll pick it up; thanks nm||DougSloan|
Jan 16, 2003 8:04 AM
|Was that a typo - 43 other Celeste bikes?||Fez|
Jan 16, 2003 8:47 AM
|Are all of them rideable?|
Jan 16, 2003 8:52 AM
|I wish. No, 4 others; 5 total. 3 more I no longer have.
|I see Ullrich will be on a Celeste bike now||DougSloan|
Jan 16, 2003 9:52 AM
|I guess we'll find out how well the EV4's are made.
|That's a good way to put it||Niwot|
Jan 16, 2003 11:04 PM
|Jan will certainly be riding a bike painted celeste green, but will it really be a frame made by Bianchi, or will someone like Pegoretti or Tommasini make Ullrich's racing frames?|
|should be easy to tell||DougSloan|
Jan 17, 2003 7:47 AM
|The Bianchis have the weird multi-cross section "Mega Pro" downtube. EVen the new all carbon bike does. So, they are easy to spot.|
|How do you decide?||PEDDLEFOOT|
Jan 16, 2003 7:37 AM
|I can see deciding upon material such as Al,Ti,Steel etc. because you may have experience riding on it.As for frame builders it seems that each builder has a reputation and good word of mouth from others.Is that enough to go by when picking a frame without actually riding one?Is this more of an asthetic choice?
Personally I don't think I could pick one without knowing how it would fit and match to my personal needs.I would truely like to know what criteria these decisions are made by.All the names are highly respected builders so I assume they would all create a great frame.How to choose between them seems a little difficult though.
|Dream frame would be the dream plus of course nm||african|
Jan 16, 2003 7:47 AM
Jan 16, 2003 8:08 AM
|Never ridden one, but it is a beautiful bike.
Jan 16, 2003 8:16 AM
|There are so many to lust for, how could I choose just one? I Calfee Dragonfly would fit my exotic carbon fiber lightweight lust. A Rivendell or Richard Moon would exceed my lugged steel lust. A nice Seven would be a wonderful frame to fulfill my Ti lust.
Maybe a pair (I know, just one, right?) of Merlin Cielo's. One as a single speed, one as a geared bike. There's something about this bike that spans the old artistic lugged style with modern tech that works for me.
|re: What's your dream frame?||Morgan|
Jan 16, 2003 9:50 AM
|I could be quite Merlin Cielo's. Fondriest Status Carb is a beautiful bike as well. And any Derosa could make me happy.
But for now I guess I will have to live with my Merlin Compact XL.
|My current ride||PaulCL|
Jan 16, 2003 11:11 AM
|I'm very happy with what I ride. A Colnago BiTitanio with Campy record. Light, stiff, great paintjob, and very comfy to ride. What more could I want??
I'm not one of those guys who has 6 bikes. I have one road and one mountain bike. I gave away my old road bike to my brother because I hadn't touched it in three years.
Now if my frame was damaged (I really hesitated writing this - you know, bad karma and all), I would probably stay with Colnago since I know it fits me. I would lean toward a CT1.....only if I couldn't find my current frame on EBAY. But then again...that carbon Frondriest is hot, as are several DeRosa's, and I like the Carrera with the carbon stays, and ........
|The one I have but am not riding at the moment nm||PdxMark|
Jan 16, 2003 12:39 PM
|re: What's your dream frame?||Averyj8|
Jan 17, 2003 1:28 PM
I am not sure if you were aware or not but Fondriest in now being offered direct via their U.S. web site at www.fondriest-usa.com. I noticed the Status Carb on top of your list. I happen to own one - the ride is magnificent. You can get one cheaper than what I paid (I paid $2,499 - new price is $1,899) which I am not thrilled about - but such is life. It has not taken away though how I feel about the frame! Just thought you might want to know.
|I've got it||mickey-mac|
Jan 17, 2003 5:59 PM
|I've been riding my Strong Foco for almost two years and honestly have experienced no bike lust since I got it. I wouldn't trade it straight across for a C40, Merak, Calfee, or any other frame costing two or three times as much. Before I got my Strong, I was always thinking about my next bike. I don't do it any more.|| |