RoadBikeReview.com's Forum Archives - General


Archive Home >> General(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 )


Any MTBers out there?(31 posts)

Any MTBers out there?StevieP
Jan 16, 2003 12:55 AM
I enjoy both MTB & road and I am originally from an MTB background.

I have been without a decent MTB for 6 months having sold
my Kona to fund a Lemond Nevada City Triple which I use as a wet weather/winter road bike.

Since riding on the road, I have found I really enjoy it and I now have 3 road bikes and no MTB.

Having just come into some money, I have splashed out on a high specced Klein Palomino. Whilst I could have bought a Colnago CT1 with Chorus with the money, I already have a Colnago & 2 other road bikes so I decided on a MTB to add to my stable to use int he summer (after all I do love MTB).

Do any of you also ride MTB &, if so, I would be interested to know what you ride.

If you don't ride MTB, I would be interested to know your attitude towards MTBers as I know that in the past the 2 types of riders have often turned their noses up at each other. Is this a thing of the past?

To me, cycling is cycling. If you enjoy riding a bike, what does it matter how you are doing it as long as you doing it?

Thanks for listening.
Steve
re: Any MTBers out there?Juanmoretime
Jan 16, 2003 1:44 AM
My current road bikes are a Litespeed Arenberg and a Vortex. My mountain bike is a Santa Cruz Superlight. I love the Santa Cruz. I love to do both equally although I don't get to go off road as much as road riding. The road starts at my front door. The nearest trail is 30 miles away.
Nice bikes.StevieP
Jan 16, 2003 1:58 AM
I can see why you don't MTB much although you have a nice trail tool there in the SC. A matter of convenience I guess.

Why 2 Ti Litespeeds?
Nice bikes.Juanmoretime
Jan 16, 2003 5:57 AM
The Arenberg is kind of a century bike, all day comfort, longer wheel base so it's steering isn't as quick. The Vortex is for hammer time, very stiff light, climbs very well and carves corners much better than the Arenberg. They are very different from each other. I like the qualities of both frames.
Heck yeah, there are some MTBers out here!RickC5
Jan 16, 2003 5:32 AM
My wife and I have been riding both road bikes and MTBs since 1983. We owned two of the first Stumpjumpers in the SF Bay Area and were able to ride in all the California State and National Parks before MTBs were banned from them. That was really great.

Today, my wife rides a Trek 5500 road bike and my road bikes are a Trek 5200 and a Litespeed Arenberg.

Our MTBs are both Klein Adept Pros w/ full XTR components. I haven't ridden a Palomino yet, but the ones in our LBS sure look nice. I also want to try a Santa Cruz Blur if I get the chance.

We enjoy both types of riding, but we also have to truck our MTBs to the nearest trails, which are MUCH farther away than some really good road rides. Consequently, we probably spend about 75% of our riding time on our road bikes. Planning and doing a MTB ride seems to take the better part of a day, while we can do a good road ride in just a couple of hours.
I race Expert MTB....SS_MB-7
Jan 16, 2003 5:34 AM
I started out as a roadie in high school, but stopped during University -- just too busy to ride. In 4th year, a buddy suggested I try MTB'ing. From that day on (1995), I've been a die-hard MTB'er. For the last 3 yrs, I've been racing MTBs...first season as Sport, and the last 2 seasons as Expert. Last year I raced the entire season on my fully rigid singlespeed:




Since I've started to become more serious about MTB racing (currently training for a solo 24 Hr race), I've started to spend more time on the road training. Like I said, I've always been a roadie so I don't mind long road rides...some of MTB racing buddies hate the roads since they find it too boring -- their loss. I actually entered my first road race last summer (105km) and did reasonably well considering I was on a singlespeed:



This fall, I took the plunge and raced 'cross -- what a blast! Again, singlespeed:





Ride Hard,
Mike B.

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
That is some serious hardwareStevieP
Jan 16, 2003 5:56 AM
I really love your Seven singlespeed and cross bike. I would love to have one in my stable but cash & space would put pay to that one (I already have 4 bikes!). Besides, I am not strong enough for a singlespeed MTB - I guess you build the strength up riding one though. Gotta watch the knee strain.

Looks like you enjoy your riding. Good for you. I can't understand those MTB riders who think road riding is boring. Its just different. It is nice ot have the option.

Thanks for replying. Have a nice day!

Steve
Thanks...SS_MB-7
Jan 16, 2003 6:08 AM
I love my Sevens (4) too. I also have a geared MTB (Ti Sola) and geared road bike (Ti Axiom), that unfortunately, don't get much use since I've been hooked by SS'ing!

SS'ing is not entirely about strength. Sure, it does help, but it is also about *feeling* the bike. Since I started SS racing 2-yrs ago, my riding philosophy has changed dramatically. SS teaches you about form, balance and how to *work* the bike and the ever-so-important conservation of momentum. Mo' is key....loose it, you're dead! Keep it...and you'd be surprised at what you can ride.

Enjoy riding? Ya, I guess you can say that! Riding, racing, training, etc has taken over my life.

If you look at the top-ranked MTB'ers, nearly all of them do the majority of their training on the roads. Road riding is less demanding and doesn't beat you up as much as MTB'ing. This allows for faster recovery. Also, road riding allows you to regulate your HR better than MTB'ing which is typically anaerobic due to the terrain.

Ride Hard,
Mike B.
Yesbsdc
Jan 16, 2003 5:42 AM
I just bought a Kona Bear Dee-Lux. It is my first full suspension mountain bike. What fun! I find myself heading for rocks and roots just to feel the suspension. I feel like an old-timer because my mountain bike before that was a fully rigid Bridgestone MB-3. I'm still more into road bike riding.
I now consider myself an ex-mtbergreg n
Jan 16, 2003 6:47 AM
Mtb racing used to be all I did for years, with a lot of training on the road. But in the last few years, I've dedicated 95% of my racing to the road plus CX racing. Now, since I only raced my mt. bike 3 times in the last two years and probably only rode it a dozen times in those 2 years, I'm going to be selling it to buy the parts for my dream road bike.

The other reason I've gotten out to mt. biking is that in my area (Chicagoland) most of the singletrack that I was riding is closed to bikers now. So the double track and m.u.t.s that I do use are easily handled with my CX bike.

Anyone want to buy a Bontrager Race Lite? Custom painted, full XTR. Seriously.
Yep...biknben
Jan 16, 2003 7:20 AM
I do more racing on the MTB than on the road. Although 80% of my training is on the road.

I currently have 3 bikes. The MTB is a GT i-drive team frame with XTR. My main road ride is a C'dale CADD5 with DA. I commute and tool around on an old Fuji bike I converted to a fixed gear.
GOTTA LOVE THOSE i-drivesgtscottie
Jan 16, 2003 2:50 PM
I also ride an i-drive for a MTB my road bikes are both miyatas.
I can't say which I like most both types of bikes bring different fun and after all fun is what it is about.
(Until they crack...) :^(Matno
Jan 17, 2003 8:43 AM
They are a great riding frame, but they have had more than their share of frame breakage. Wouldn't be too much of a problem if GT would still warranty them, but they won't (at least not the "pre-bankruptcy" ones). I saw one at the LBS a couple of weeks ago with its seat mast about 45 degrees to the right. Oops! Just riding along...on pavement no less (of course, who knows when the actual structural weakening took place).

On the other hand, most of them are fine, and as long as you're not doing any drops, they should last longer than you'll want to keep them around anyway...
absolutely!mohair_chair
Jan 16, 2003 7:49 AM
It's hard to being a cyclist where I live (SF Bay Area) and not enjoy mountain biking. According to lore, MTB was invented here, and for a good reason. There are some spectacular places to ride.

Almost everyone I know rides road and mountain, but most are more into road than mountain. I try to do both equally, because there are different skill sets involved and one definitely helps the other. Road riding gives me power and endurance, and mountain biking gives me strength and bike handling. The combined effect is to make me a much better rider on both types of bikes.

A couple of my road buddies tried MTB and hated it. They are great road riders, but on dirt, they just couldn't get the bike handling part.

My MTB bike is a Santa Cruz Superlight, which is an awesome bike. It seems to be the bike of choice around here, which makes sense because the guys who designed it ride the same trails we all do. It replaced an old Specialized M2 Stumpjumper, which I still have the frame for. One day I'll build it back up so I have a hardtail again. There are certain trails at certain times of the year where a hardtail is the perfect bike.
started riding MTB in '85 before road riding and still love itTig
Jan 16, 2003 8:00 AM
I don't get to ride the single track as much as I'd like, but I sure love it. Riding min the woods feels like nothing else. The challenge of a MTB race is like nothing else as well! I'm still on an old Cannondale hard tail with a head shock. It works fine for my needs.

A rare photo taken 2 weeks ago.
re: Any MTBers out there?hrv
Jan 16, 2003 8:07 AM
Just recently got into MTB, after having lived here in Oregon for over 12 years. What was I waiting for! Unbelievable fun. From my house I have my pick of a century road ride in any direction I choose, or any number of epic mtb rides. Life is good!

Yeah, I know a few really strong mtb'ers who are bored every time they hit pavement, but most of the strong off-trailer's ride on the road too, and race both.

Just got a Spec. FSR - XC w/ disc brakes. Rain - I don't care 'bout no stinkin' rain! These babies stop in anything!
Also thinking about doing a couple of beginner races this year but know that I would go balls-out on the downhills and risk bodily injury to myself and others in a race situation!
Different animals, both fun!Matno
Jan 16, 2003 8:12 AM
I didn't really get into MTB'ing seriously until I bought my first full-suspension rig (a K2 5000 that I still ride). Now, there is nothing I would rather do. It even made me wish the ski season would end sooner for the first time in my entire life!

HOWEVER, I will never turn my back on road riding, which has been a passion since I was 13. While it doesn't come with the same kind of adrenalin rushes that MTB'ing can provide, the distances you cover, the high sustained speeds, and the feeling of accomplishment at the end of a LONG ride are more than enough to make road biking serious fun!

As for the 2 rider types, I have found little exception to the general rule that road bikers are not as friendly. Mountain bikers almost always stop or at least say hi to each other, whereas dedicated roadies rarely even wave back when I wave to them (even when I'm one of "them"). On the other hand, I don't necessarily think it's just attitude. I know that when I'm trying to train hard and/or beat the clock on my road bike, I'm less prone to even pay attention to other people, let alone expend energy to wave or break my cadence to stop and chat. (Although I usually do anyway since I'm not what you would call a "serious" rider). I'm guessing that's a big part of the disparity between riders.

Good advice: Always smile and at least wave quickly!
Different animals, both fun!JFST
Jan 16, 2003 9:51 AM
I I do MTB and road every single week. If you really love cycling you have to try both because each one brings in something different. I can't have one without the other. Currently my road bike is a LOOK KX and my mountain bikes are an Intense Tracer and a Litespeed Unicoi. I had a Litespeed Pisgah MTB and GT ZR 1.0 road bike but sold those cuz it was just too many bikes. There is no feeling better than blasting down a fast technical singletrack on a mountain bike.
Yep sport class & Cat 4shawndoggy
Jan 16, 2003 10:26 AM
Got into cycling via the MTB, then turned to the road for training. I've really gotten into riding on the road in the last couple of years, taking my first crack at road racing last year.

Offroad I ride a Sugar 1+ with a psylo race fork. Got this after breaking my 2000 Sugar 3 at 24 hours of tahoe last year. AFAIK, it's a factory special since you can't buy a long travel sugar with a carbon swingarm.

On the street I ride a GT ZR 3.0 (chucksbikes.com) with an 8 speed dura ace group that I've had for ten years.

Picture is from 24 hours of tahoe, riding my teammate's bullet on lap 2 after cracking the sugar's seattube in half on lap 1.
hey, i resemble that remark!_rt_
Jan 16, 2003 10:29 AM
mtn (my true love)


road


and my new baby




rt
I got "dirty" just today!teoteoteo
Jan 16, 2003 2:30 PM
Just back from 2+ hours at a place name City Park in Austin. Cold and windy weather today so I decided I would take out my new steed. It's a Specialized Epic or Epig as i like to call it. I'm a long time hardtail guy that decided to give dualies another shot (I had a SC Superlight last year).

I love the woods but I love epic road rides too. I can't give up either sport because I need them both. I will say that I am a bit stronger in the MTB though. Pic below is in Waco about 30 minutes before a wicked bonk--went from 8th place to 23rd in one lap--OUCH!!!
nice pic..._rt_
Jan 17, 2003 8:41 AM
Epics are awesome rides. enjoy it.

know the feeling of that bonk. did it the other night on a training ride. last lap all i could think about was a snickers & a gatorade. i practically crawled through the 5 miles. ;-)

rt

ps- the first pic in my post is my last lap at the '02 24-hrs of adrenaline at Conyers, GA. that was lap #5 in 20 hrs - i managed to remain awake for about 3 hours after i finished that lap!
? with last pickatie1
Jan 16, 2003 3:55 PM
Is that dirty shorts in the background?

I'm playing! Great pics rt.
no..._rt_
Jan 17, 2003 8:43 AM
t's dirty tights! ;-P

rt
absolutelylaffeaux
Jan 16, 2003 1:18 PM
I enjoy both MTB and road. I'm currently trying to cut back on bikes (via eBay), but the three that I put the post miles on are:

Santa Cruz Blur (full-suspension)
Bontrager Race Lite (hard tail)
Ritchey Swiss Cross (cyclocross)

You might notice that there's no dedicated road bike in there. After buying the 'cross bike, I stopped rinding my road bike altogther. It rides as well (or better) than my road bike, and still lets the MTB rider in my explore.

I'm with you - if it has pedals I'll ride it.
laffeaux...have a '98 Ritchey Swiss Crosspeter in NVA
Jan 16, 2003 2:54 PM
How is your bike built and what color is it (mine is yellow). Rarely ride my mountain or road bikes anymore, just this.
laffeaux...have a '98 Ritchey Swiss Crosslaffeaux
Jan 16, 2003 5:45 PM
Mine is slightly newer with the Plexus-style rear stays. I'm not sure they do anything, but they look cool. The bike is painted a silver/gun-metal gray color with black Ritchey decals - it looks nice. The drivetrain in Dura Ace and with 38/48 rings.

I stopped ridding my road bike after a few rides on this one. I still ride my mountain bike, but I ride the Ritchey more. When I'm doing a big climb I'll switch out the wheels for a set with road tires, but for general ridng, I keep the knobbies on for exploring.

Could not be happier.
Like to see a picturepeter in NVA
Jan 16, 2003 8:01 PM
What brakes do you have? I just got some Koolstop dual compound for my Avids and will try them out to see if my never ending battle against squealing is won! (Its still snowing out so I may have to wait). I posted on the cross board that I'm close to getting Paul's brakes, but maybe the squealing is just my fork. I was told that for my year, Ritchey just used his road forks with canti studs - they sure vibrate under braking.

The bike came with 34/48 cranks (13-26 8spd), upgraded to Bio-Max bars and use Frog Pedals (not good for cross but great for my knees).

I'm sure you've had many do a double take thinking it was a road bike off road.
here's a crappy onelaffeaux
Jan 16, 2003 10:41 PM
My camera tooks pretty lousy indoor/low light shots, but here it is.

I have Paul Neo-Retro's front and rear. I'd not put them on the rear, as they stick out too far. I'd rather have the touring model. The wheel set with the cross tires do not squeal (Open Pros), however my road wheelset Mavic Cosmos do. I've always assumed that the rims were different widths and the breaks hit slightly different.

I'll post a better pic when I get a chance to take a good pic. Note the full commute gear - fender and NiteRider equipped.
Looks good to me!peter in NVA
Jan 17, 2003 12:57 PM
I was going to switch to Paul's to stop the Avid squealing, but since you have had problems with at least one wheel set, maybe there is no total solution. I just tried out new Koolstop dual compound pads - they are mountain pads and really stop, but they do squeak a little.

I have a lot of trouble releasing the brakes and have to let out the air in the front tire to get it off - do you have the same problem?

You run your bars high, like I do. May not be the racer look but I don't get back problems anymore.
Yes, started out MTB. n/mscottfromcali
Jan 16, 2003 1:45 PM