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Cyclists' waist size???(38 posts)

Cyclists' waist size???elviento
Jan 15, 2003 1:07 PM
At 5'8" and 178lbs, I am no lightweight. My dress pants waist size is 32" and could deal with a 31" occassionally. It seems in stores 30" is often the smallest waist size sold, and in worst cases, they even stop at 34".

I am just curious for those featherweights out there, do you all have your pants tailored? What's the deal?

-- in puzzlement
Where do you put everything!?PdxMark
Jan 15, 2003 1:16 PM
I have a 32 inch waist (or smaller) too, but I'm 5'10 165lbs and 40 inch chest. You must have some impressive biceps and quads.
I do have some muscle in the thighs and arms,elviento
Jan 15, 2003 2:45 PM
but nothing out of proportion. Used to play soccer a little bit.

A size 40 suit fits me pretty well, except the waist needs to be let in an inch or so.
the little boys department?ColnagoFE
Jan 15, 2003 1:54 PM
don't laugh. my wife (5'1") has to get stuff from the girls dept at times. everything is too big/long.
funny storycollinsc
Jan 15, 2003 2:05 PM
my mother used to work for the Gap a long time ago and was actually the fit for the size 2 jeans at the time.

years have gone by and she hasnt changed at all.

quite often now she is less than zero.

sizes are inflating. skinny people are rare. skinny people also use belts.
The sizes are screwed up.elviento
Jan 15, 2003 2:54 PM
My girl friend at 5'7" and 122lbs wears a size 2 and often times a size 0. Since I refuse to believe that we are too skinny (In fact I think I could lose another 10lbs, and she is perfect sizewise), I can only conclude that the sizes (and maybe people's bodies) are screwed up in this country.
What??Kristin
Jan 15, 2003 3:01 PM
I'm 5'7" and "when" I weighted 123 pounds (right up until my 22nd birthday) I wore a size 5/6-7/8 top and a size 9/10 pant. There is no way she can be into a size two unless she only shops Italian designers. Are you sure she's not just telling you that? Girls hate to be honest about dress sizes.
totally veering off topic...women's sizing makes no senseColnagoFE
Jan 15, 2003 3:09 PM
why don't they size women's clothes the same as men's? would make lots of sense. you could even include a "hips" measurement if needed. seems that they may as well not size anything because a size 0 at someplace like Target (everything ios HUGE there)is probably the same as a size 8 somewhere else. Makes no sense.
That's exactly what Collins was saying: sizes are inflating...elviento
Jan 15, 2003 3:16 PM
Supposedly a size 2 pant should have a 25-26" waist, but it usually turns out around 27-28" these days. At 122lbs and 5'7" there would be no need to lie about your size, would it?
More off topic.Kristin
Jan 15, 2003 3:28 PM
No woman is every happy with her body. Its the culter we live in. Is your girlfriend completely satisfied with her body? I'd kill to be back in a size 9/10, I haven't shopped on those racks in 10 years; but the sad fact is that back then I felt that I was too fat. I had a great body. I miss that body. But back then I thought I was fat.
You are absolutely right.elviento
Jan 15, 2003 6:00 PM
No woman is every happy with her body. No doubt about it. But she doesn't think she is too fat. She wasn't raised in the US, so is immune to this Ally McBeal fantacy. And we all know 120-130lbs for a 5'7" person is nowhere near fat.

And Kristin, another factor is that Asian girls typically don't have as wide hips, if that helps explain the pant size discrepancy. And believe me, the sizes are really inflated (reversely I guess) these days.
Ooops, forgot to say that I don't see sizes inflatingKristin
Jan 15, 2003 3:31 PM
My sizes inflated, but that's because I gained weight. I am two (4?) pant sizes bigger now. But being 30 pounds over-weight, that should be the case, should it not? Unless they are only skewing small womens sizes. But even so, how could they be now off by more than 5 sizes??
Sizes <b>are</b> inflating_rt_
Jan 16, 2003 10:46 AM
recently i saw an article in the NY Times (i think it was the sunday mag from early Dec) about how Nike has redefined their women's sizes so that the new sizes will actually be a size larger than the label says: so a size small will actually be sized for someone who wears a medium; a size medium will be sized for someone who wears a large; etc. i remember thinking at the time that i would probably never wear Nike clothing again since they will no longer make a size that actually fits me.

rt - size XS (really)
Belts -- but I hate pants folded under the belt.elviento
Jan 15, 2003 6:04 PM
Don't you?
Get a good tailor. nmSpunout
Jan 16, 2003 4:36 AM
gap kids is one of my favorite places to shop_rt_
Jan 16, 2003 10:40 AM
seriously. i'm a girl's size 10 or 12.

5'1"/~100 lbs

rteeny
sometimes we get lucky and find a wearable sizewheelsucker
Jan 15, 2003 2:40 PM
I'm 5'9" 142lbs, I usually can get by with a belt when it comes to pants(though they do sag a little). underwear is the problem, I have my wife tailor the waist on my boxers or they ride up like crazy.
re: Cyclists' waist size???jw25
Jan 15, 2003 2:41 PM
I think I qualify for this one. I'm 5'9", 145 lbs, 28" waist (with a 34" inseam), and a 34" chest. Very very endomorphic body type.
There's not many places I can shop - custom-made isn't really an option $-wise. The GAP sells pants in a 28 or 29-34, so that's where most of mine come from.
My arms are fairly long, too - 15.5"-33" shirt, so finding shirts that aren't baggy, but cover my wrists, is...interesting.
Heck, even finding cycling clothes can be a pain. MOst long-sleeve jerseys and jackets are either too short sleevewise, or too big chestwise. Thankfully tights are stretchy lengthwise, or I'd show a lot more sock.
So, anyone know of a small and tall store?
I feel your pain jw25.....question about cycling clothingwheelsucker
Jan 15, 2003 3:25 PM
jw25 has a good point about cycling clothing, a lot of cyclists are fairly skinny(like jw and myself) so why is it that cycling clothes that fit are still hard to find??? My cycling shorts go half way up my thighs, they almost look like boxer briefs, but the next size up is too big, same with cycling shirts, the short sleeve shirts almost look like tank tops and my long sleeves are baggy in order to cover my whole arm...go figure
go italiancollinsc
Jan 15, 2003 5:28 PM
best fitting clothes i have are castelli

5'10" 145lbs, not much waist, nearly zero chest. castelli stuff is great
go italian BUT...serbski
Jan 15, 2003 5:57 PM
or should I say "Butt", the Castelli bibs in medium (my size I *thought*) were way too baggy in the seat and midriff and I'm about 5'9.5" and 145lbs. The chamois was moving around like crazy on my one and only long ride in the Castellis so I sold 'em to a much bigger guy who loves them! I find that the Giordana are *just* right in the medium if a *tad* short in the shoulder straps (though if you're riding rather than standing around in them, it's not a problem). That's my two-cents.
well.collinsc
Jan 15, 2003 7:15 PM
yeah, i guess i could be more critical and agree with you, there is a little room (definitely not "Way") in near the back of the chamois, but my legs are thick enough to tighten things up.

ive got mediums too.
Forget the waist, I cant get things to fit over my legs!BigLeadOutGuy
Jan 15, 2003 3:50 PM
my problem is finding things that fit over my legs, my legs measure 29 inches around and with a 38 waist i end up having to buy pant sizes around size 42 or bigger just to be comfy. Ill trade you some bigger waist size for some smaller leg size! =)
Go tell'em, bro!!!seyboro
Jan 15, 2003 4:29 PM
I was wondering if someone would take the first step into the other direction. Let me move further and on to the brutally inhuman (for a 49 inch chest, anyways) European cycling gear sizing. Listen to this story from across the pond:
So, my main man Dana and his wife go to Italy for vacation and conception. Naturally, he is checking out the local shops for some gear and maybe the odd c-40, Record group or somesuch.
He and his Italien friend/translator get to a nice shop with oodles of drool-over-able stuff and he picks out a full Domo winter kit for himself. Thinking about his buddy back in NC, he asks the shop owner whether they had something in a larger size, say an 8/9 or so...?
After almost choking to death from laughter, his friend translates back:"He's sorry, but no. Who are you riding with anyways? KING KONG??"
Well, I got a one-size-fits-all Saeco beanie. At least, my fat German head will stay warm this winter.
Too skinny for clothes, puhleeeeaaase....
The other extreme...elviento
Jan 15, 2003 5:52 PM
I feel your pain, my friend. Maybe I am just hard to satisfy. Although I usually look for small/medium size clothes in US stores, XXL is the smallest I can wear in a mapei jacket made by Santini...
re: Well, now I feel heavy!Morgan
Jan 15, 2003 4:31 PM
Compared to you guys! I am 6' at 193 pounds and have a 33" waist (pant size). I carry a lot of muscle in arms and thighs, body building in my past. If I had it to do over again I would have spend more time on the bike and less time in the gym.
My wife has similar situation 5'9" and 130 pounds, size 0 very small waist, long legs. Depending on the brand she wears size small to med cycling jersey.

Would love to get under 190, but I suffer from a cookie addiction!

Morgan
re: Well, now I feel heavy!Sharkman
Jan 15, 2003 6:09 PM
Another vote for ex weight lifters and body builders having equal clothes issues. For most of my life I have been 5'11" and 195 to 215. When I was lifting, I had a 48.5" chest, a 33" waist, an 18.5" neck and 28" thighs. Absolutely nothing off the rack fit.

Have been working hard the last three years at losing all that mass. In 2000 got down to 185 by riding consistently, laying off fast food, and slowing down the sweets. This fall, I joined a race team and have training even harder. Am now at 174, hope to get down to 168 or so, which will be the least I have weighed since high school (was 190 at graduation).

The good news is everthing fits now off the rack more easily. The bad news is all my clothes at home are too big.

Oh well. The price of fitness

Bob
How'd you get the size in your legs?PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jan 15, 2003 9:29 PM
How'd you get such size in your legs? I've always hovered around about 26 inches.

What was your squat?

Nick
PodiumBound.ca
How'd you get the size in your legs?BigLeadOutGuy
Jan 16, 2003 6:49 AM
Lots of squats and deadlifts, I played football in college as well as some track and field too. But its definaltly from squating, leg presses and deadlifts. I dont recall my max squat offhand but i can recall days repping out 455 pounds for 6-10 reps. but at that time my legs were closer to 32 inches and I was about 100 pounds heavier. Since then I havent touched a weight in years, lost around 100 pounds as well as 3 or 4 inches on my legs and many more on my other bodyparts as well. =)
Your , talking to the choir!Morgan
Jan 16, 2003 8:37 AM
When I competed in the 80's, my training partner trained legs twice a week, started with squats, warmed up with 315 pounds, then worked up to 650 pound for reps. Of course the only benefit to this was on the stage or in the gym. I had a extremely hard time finding pants to fit and had to have most clothing altered. It's so nice now being able to find jeans that fit. But cycling jerseys are XXL and feel somewhat out of place on a team with guys who are all under 185 pounds.
hm--i have overindulged my quads evidentlyRubiks_Manuever
Jan 16, 2003 1:16 AM
I have a 34 waist, am 200 lbs and six foot tall. However, whenever I try to pants or jeans I have to find the "baggy" ones because any 34 waist pants hug my quads like some barishnikov dancer pants. I spent the last twenty-something years roller skating, so my thighs have become rather monstrously large. Luckily, I discovered road cycling and have had no problems with cycling shorts stretching over my ugly tree trunks of thighs. I've always wanted a David Bowie/Mick Jagger/Iggy Pop physique, yet I have maintained quite the opposite. I have a forty-two inch chest too...arg.
allright enough of you big guys...emptyhanded
Jan 16, 2003 7:51 AM
lamenting how huge and muscular you are. let's get back to us scrawny fellas. :)

at 6' and whopping 140 lbs, one of the great things about cycling is that my twiggy physique is suddenly not a hinderance. it's an asset, particularly when climbing.

as for cycling clothes, the european kits seem to fit best. i guess manufacturers figure european cyclists are all built like sevilla, while americans are just football players on a bike. the exception was with castelli bibs. i had the same problem. i'm a medium in all other shorts, but was swimming in those. i'm trying to use it as motivation to increase my thigh size so i can finally wear them.

finding everyday clothes is a constant battle. your two best friends: belts, and tailors. any pair of pants nicer than jeans or khaki's, i have to have taken in. and don't even talk to me about trying to find a nice suit...
boy's section bluesmiko
Jan 16, 2003 8:11 AM
try finding a 28-29 waist with a 29 inseam in a men's store. Don't talk to me about suits either! I'm 5'6" and 130lbs (when wet!)
If you have the $ColnagoFE
Jan 16, 2003 11:08 AM
Go custom! You can get pretty much anything made custom if you have the $.
Tall and skinny is a problem with dress shirts.Alex-in-Evanston
Jan 16, 2003 9:11 AM
It's difficult to find a 15 1/2 - 36.

Alex
really?ColnagoFE
Jan 16, 2003 11:07 AM
You must be going to the wrong shops. That's not too odd of a size. Not like you wear a 14/36. Can you wear a 16? I wear a 16 or 16.5/36 and have no problems finding shirts to fit. Long sleeve Sport shirts are tougher. I need to get an XL for the arm length but they assume you are fat at that size and they are pretty blousy in the stomach. Large sometimes fit but the sleeves are always a bit short.
Thank God for Eddie BauerAlex-in-Evanston
Jan 16, 2003 11:46 AM
They make a medium tall size for almost everything. 90% of my office clothes are from there. Anybody know of another store doing medium tall shirts?

Regarding the 15 1/2 - 36, neither Mark Shale nor Neiman Marcus carries that size in any designer. The only brand I've found who consistently has it is the Nordstrom's house brand. I'll turn one up in a pile of men's shirts at Marshall Field's every now and then too.

Alex
Hi... my name is Nick... and I ruined my first pair of pants thePODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jan 16, 2003 3:58 PM
Hi my name is Nick. And I have a problem. I ruined my first pair of pants the other day. I don't know if I should be be happy or ashamed. This might affect my entire waredrobe... and from there who knows what might happen... friends and family might shy away from me. I thought they looked good in the store. I wore them and before I knew it after I squatted down a couple times there was a hole in the inside of my leg :( I now wore a pair of pants I hadn't worn in a while and they are getting tigher and tighter. Please help me.