|E-caps and doping?||cyclopathic|
Jan 15, 2003 7:04 AM
|got last endurance news and seems they really affraid of Scott Moninger story; kinda wonder..|
|Even with nothing to hide they have to take it seriously.||dzrider|
Jan 15, 2003 7:28 AM
|I have no idea what goes in E-Caps. I've never taken them, but I do take Endurolytes and HammerGel which come from the same company. If enough people who don't want to use banned substances question the ingredients of their products it will hurt their business. If people who use banned substances believe E-Caps increase the liklihood of being caught, it will also hurt their business. The potential for damage to their business is very real.|
|what's the story?||DougSloan|
Jan 15, 2003 7:37 AM
|Got a link or a copy and paste job to fill us in? I missed it.
Jan 15, 2003 8:14 AM
|Go to Jan. 2003
|re: what's the story?||cyclopathic|
Jan 15, 2003 8:21 AM
|here a few links:
Scott was sponsored by E-caps prior and left just before the incident. E-caps news letter "endurance news" #37 fiercely (too fiercely?) defends e-caps so I wonder
|What is an 'e-cap'? (nm)||gala7516|
Jan 15, 2003 8:04 AM
|French for condom......nm||african|
Jan 15, 2003 10:10 AM
|Wouldn't that be 'le-cap'? (nm)||gala7516|
Jan 15, 2003 5:28 PM
|I think your subject line is a little misleading||DougSloan|
Jan 15, 2003 8:48 AM
|Your subject line sort of implies that E-caps was connected with or suspected of doping practices. Everything I read said just the opposite. Their response to the Moninger story seemed reasonable and probably necessary under the circumstances.
I think E-caps / Hammer has great products.
|misleading, Xcontamination, doping etc||cyclopathic|
Jan 15, 2003 10:46 AM
|besides obvious like cross-contamination /E-caps farm out production, so they can't really control what's happening/ there's a question if something somehow in their products could trigger false positive.
As you I've used the E-caps product and what I've used worked well.
|Moninger didn't claim contamination of E-Caps!||dzrider|
Jan 15, 2003 1:47 PM
|It was another product, a multi-vitamin I believe, and that's the point. His connection to E-Caps was that they sponsored him and they're now doing their best to keep their reputation. As others point out we have no way of knowing if there was a problem of cross contamination or if Moninger was clean and innocent. I don't know of anybody who claims that there was a problem with E-Caps.|
|It was an amino acid "L-Tyrosine" nm||dzrider|
Jan 15, 2003 1:51 PM
|My compassion has run dry.||MerlinMan|
Jan 15, 2003 11:26 AM
|I don't claim to have access to a crystal ball that divines innocence or guilt with athletic drug testing. I find though, that it is hard to feel sorry for athletes who demand retests or blame a plethora of probabilities for their positive drug tests. It seems as though every athlete has a pr story to go along with the positive result of drug testing. Just as all inmates claim innocence, we find more and more athletes hoping their testing might be changed by the new and improved excuse. I know it would be terrible for an athlete to be banned when they were drug free, but I just am so tired of hearing the excuses that remind me of what a drug entrenched sport I take part in!|| |