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Defecate to reduce weight?(36 posts)

Defecate to reduce weight?Continental
Jan 14, 2003 11:58 AM
With all the emphasis on weight reduction, do elite racers make sure that they are not carrying a few hundred grams of feces with them? I see comments that people will spend $1 a gram to take weight off their bikes. If so, I have at least $500 bowel movement every morning (high fiber diet). I am serious and really do wander about this. Slow day at work!
Funny you mention that...rockbender
Jan 14, 2003 12:16 PM
I don't race, but can be a weight weenie at times. On multiple occasions when I start rambling on about gram savings to my girlfriend, her reply is often to the tune of "why don't you just go take a crap, get on your bike, and RIDE!" (gotta love her)

I am sure there are digestion timing issues that racers must address in addition to the sheer extra weight hauled.
Body weight=constant vs. bike weight=variantPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jan 14, 2003 12:41 PM
Think of it this way. Bike weight will always be the same no matter what with the exception of water bottles. Thus you can shed weight from your bike and have it be permanent. Body weight however varies dramatically. If climbing were just about being as light as possible they'd do it like wrestlers... wear plastic bags to the base of the climb... take them off with enough time to let their clothes dry and fly up. WRONG... your body needs to be hydrated and since they need a constant flow of food they can't really time their bathrooms stops. Thats why they take off their helmets as well.

My 2 cents,
Nick
PodiumBound.ca
Boy, do I have a load for you!!Spunout
Jan 14, 2003 12:42 PM
That is funny. True!! There have been pro racers stop to take a #2 before, but it wasn't the biomass VS titanium problem.
Funny you mention that...gtscottie
Jan 14, 2003 2:53 PM
Funny you should mention racing and crapping. My wife and I went to the greyhound races last year in Houston. Being amatures at betting my wife bet on the dog that took a dump before the race. She went home $50.00 richer. So i am not sure if it will make the bike faster but it sure made the dog run better :)
Hey rockbender, does your girlfriendLazywriter
Jan 14, 2003 8:01 PM
open beer bottles with her Vaaaaaaaaargina? Klassy with a capital "K".
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re: Defecate to reduce weight?blownpupil
Jan 14, 2003 12:56 PM
If you want a serious answer, people have abused laxatives to lose weight through history. People can die doing it with regularity( no pun intended) . It's dangerous. Besides long term effect (such as developing flaccid, non-functiong colons) the short term effect which would most hinder your riding is dehydration.

Sure, take a dump before a ride...probably good, but don't do it to shed a few grams.
Don't leave home <i>with</i> it!Tig
Jan 14, 2003 1:46 PM
I'll address this as tastefully as possible. Let's just say I like to travel light when it comes to riding. That isn't always easy when you suffer from diverticulosis. A little help from Aunt Metamucil the day before an event, as well as a balanced diet with fiber helps the body perform all it's functions naturally and without complications.

An intense ride is even more difficult when the abdomen is in pain due to the extra contents. Weight isn't a primary concern, but the body feels better overall without the extra baggage.
a little coffee an hour before a ride does wonders (nm)laffeaux
Jan 14, 2003 3:10 PM
MetamucilKristin
Jan 14, 2003 3:15 PM
Metamucil is a good idea if your diet isn't high in fiber to begin with. If you are getting abdominal upset on the bike, it might be because you have a bit of IBS (nastiest illness in the world). IBS leaves you with a delicate GI balance that can be thrown into turmoil quickly. The best way to fight that is to take fiber everyday (either in your diet or as a suppliment.)
How can I say this delicately?Kristin
Jan 14, 2003 3:12 PM
Stuff only comes out when theres more in the shoot behind it. Pooping does't affect your body weight. Have a nice day. :-)
Sorry to poop on your argument......I_See_Fred_People
Jan 14, 2003 3:50 PM
BUTT...what you say makes no sense.

If I drop 1lb of kids off at the pool. I AM 1lb lighter. Geez, its basic math. Now if i eat a pound of food immediately after, there is no weight savings.

I cant believe im saying this.
Fred, Your argument actually is wrongLazywriter
Jan 14, 2003 8:48 PM
If you don't drop that 1 pound of crap and you eat another pound (which you must for energy), then you have 2 extra pounds. This is in contrast to the guy who eats the same 1 pound of food but craps the other pound making him 1 pound lighter than the other guy (assuming they weigh the same). That actually is a weight savings. You are a genius, Fred.
No its not...and yes I am genius.....I_See_Fred_People
Jan 15, 2003 2:13 PM
..but please...this doesnt take a genius, and its really not worht discussing, but the theoretical fact is...

If one were to crap out a pound, and get on a bike with replacing the pound of crap with another pound of food, they WOULD indeed be a pound lighter than if they had not crapped.

its simple really.

All of this, "Well they have to eat to replace energy" arguments are moot. No one says the person has to eat a lb. of food after crapping a lb.

lol..this is funny
No its not...and yes I am genius.....I_See_Fred_People
Jan 15, 2003 2:15 PM
..but please...this doesnt take a genius, and its really not worth discussing, but the theoretical fact is...

If one were to crap out a pound, and get on a bike without replacing the pound of crap with another pound of food, they WOULD indeed be a pound lighter than if they had not crapped.

its simple really.

All of this, "Well they have to eat to replace energy" arguments are moot. No one says the person has to eat a lb. of food after crapping a lb.

lol..this is funny
Nice try..........Lazywriter
Jan 15, 2003 2:28 PM
This is what you said, genius.
"BUTT...what you say makes no sense.
If I drop 1lb of kids off at the pool. I AM 1lb lighter. Geez, its basic math. Now if i eat a pound of food immediately after, there is no weight savings.

I cant believe im saying this."

and this is what you said to correct yourself when I said you were wrong.

"If one were to crap out a pound, and get on a bike without replacing the pound of crap with another pound of food, they WOULD indeed be a pound lighter than if they had not crapped."

Your last statement was a correction of your first. YOU WERE WRONG. Get over it. Genius.
You are an idiot.....I_See_Fred_People
Jan 15, 2003 7:31 PM
the 2nd statement was affirmation of the 1st.
Ok..im gonna try and analyze where our communication went wrong.I_See_Fred_People
Jan 15, 2003 7:37 PM
**If you don't drop that 1 pound of crap and you eat another pound (which you must for energy), then you have 2 extra pounds.** Ok..i agree, this is correct...but Im not sure where this scenario came from...maybe i didnt read something.

**This is in contrast to the guy who eats the same 1 pound of food but craps the other pound making him 1 pound lighter than the other guy (assuming they weigh the same). That actually is a weight savings.***

I agree with this as well...only I never compared 2 people(i dont think..man im confused)

*You are a genius, Fred.*

Once again..your on the money.

What I cant figure out, is what I said that you say is wrong?
Oh Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!Lazywriter
Jan 15, 2003 9:44 PM
For a purported genius you sure are dense.
You originally stated this to the origianl post about a rider crapping to lose some grams.

"BUTT...what you say makes no sense.
If I drop 1lb of kids off at the pool. I AM 1lb lighter. Geez, its basic math. Now if i eat a pound of food immediately after, there is no weight savings."

Eating is essential for energy therefore it must be done and that is a constant. Therefore if a racer who eats and craps before a race today will be lighter than if he eats an doesn't crap before tomorrow's stage. Therefore there is always a weight savings if he craps before a stage. Therefore your original rebuttal was wrong. YOU WERE WRONG. Just admit it and get over it.
A pound? Dude I don't want to be anywhere near you bathroom. nmKristin
Jan 15, 2003 7:43 AM
Youre right, this is a cycling board..i meant 454grams of crap.*I_See_Fred_People
Jan 15, 2003 2:25 PM
:-)
Known as taking the 'load' for a ride [nm]Leroy
Jan 14, 2003 3:27 PM
double depositcurtybirdychopper
Jan 14, 2003 4:15 PM
I cant help it, but before triathlons i have to budget time for a double deposit whether i want to or not (most times not, b/c of the long lines, porta potties, etc.). i guess the gastro juices get my gi tract nice and lubed on account of the pre race excitement, what can i say. and i sure do feel light in the water, nevermind the wetsuit....
OH MY GOD.collinsc
Jan 14, 2003 4:32 PM
I cant believe this topic is getting so many responses.

and btw, I feel sorry for your anus having to go thru the turmoil of a >1lb sh*t every morning.
Neither can I, but this is the funniest post in a year!! nmseyboro
Jan 14, 2003 6:21 PM
AND it engages lazywriter in serious discussion - wow!! nmseyboro
Jan 15, 2003 7:13 PM
PRD = Pre-Race Dump...biknben
Jan 14, 2003 7:00 PM
I also budget my time before races to be sure I have time to "pinch one out". It's not neccessarily a weight issue, it's a comfort thing. I don't want the chocolate turtle poking his nose out halfway through a race.
re: like this??? -nmcydswipe
Jan 14, 2003 7:15 PM
I sum this up with HaikuContinental
Jan 14, 2003 8:01 PM
Hors Category
Too heavy to win today
Nature did not call
re: Use it for energyBeardedRecumbentRiderFromOuterSpace
Jan 14, 2003 8:20 PM
Try to avoid a movement. Your body will suck it back up into your stomach, digest it and use if for energy. Much more effective then eating energy bars, which usually you expend more calories on just chewing up and digesting then you gain.
I can send you my liver infection....Iwannapodiumgirl
Jan 15, 2003 2:58 AM
I lost 4kgs in 6 weeks - combination of dropping many platoons of chocolate paratoopers behind enemy lines, having Major Squirt inspect the troops, technicolour yawning and loss of appetite.

So yes, crapping your dacks or wetsuit is probably a good thing... besides, gives you incentive to ride home faster to change!

Seriously - I recall Uncle Phil commenting in this years TdF that most pro riders take a "natural break" before hitting the mountain stages of a long days stage... so if the pro's do it, it must be good!
Too poop to pop. There's a reason for this saying.Paul
Jan 15, 2003 5:30 AM
I don't know the reason, but we all feel better after a good poop.
overrated / underratedTurtleherder
Jan 15, 2003 8:42 AM
There was a saying that this old guy I knew used, "sex is overrated and a good dump is underrated."
Boy this explains a lot...joekm
Jan 15, 2003 1:05 PM
Every now and then, I run across the occasional rider that tells me how fast he is but always seem to fall behind in our group rides.

I never thought of it before, but the problem must be that he's full of sh?t. ;)
re: Defecate to reduce weight?Tarball
Jan 15, 2003 3:09 PM
I clip my toenails before an important ride. Rotational weight is more critical.
maybe I should fart when going up hills to increase thrust ;) nmjoekm
Jan 15, 2003 6:58 PM