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Litespeed Classic for $1300 on Ebay? What's wrong with this?(12 posts)

Litespeed Classic for $1300 on Ebay? What's wrong with this?ATLien
Jan 14, 2003 8:29 AM
Did anyone else see the following post on eBay today?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=7298&item=1987112688

Something doesn't seem right here (besides the fact that he's built up a Litespeed Classic as a TT bike).

Any thoughts?
Some thoughtsNessism
Jan 14, 2003 8:46 AM
Seller is in Canada which can be a pain assuming buyer is in the US.

Frame is used which means no warranty.

Price seems OK otherwise. Of course, the auction is not over...price may go up.

Ed
yeah that was kind of my thinking as well.ATLien
Jan 14, 2003 8:56 AM
A buddy is looking for a used 61-62cm frame and ran across this. Just seemed odd to me since there's no reserve.

Seems awfully cheap unless he's dealing in Canadian $$.
some more thoughtsFez
Jan 14, 2003 9:07 AM
the used/no warranty situation applies to all used bikes not purchased from a dealer.

but in terms of this specific frame, besides the goofy setup, i think this frame is several years old, but with newer black decals.

from looking at the pic, it looks like it has the older chainstays, the 1 inch head tube, and the older design seat collar.

if you are looking for a frame in that size, i think gary at gvh bikes had some 59-61 litespeed framesets recently.
I'm definitely sending him to GVH, I got mine there and love itATLien
Jan 14, 2003 9:10 AM
BingoFez
Jan 14, 2003 9:27 AM
Found it for your friend

http://gvhbikes.com/02%20Litespeed/12-6-02/61%20Classic.jpg

2002 model. Decent price, although it may be more than your friend wanted to spend.
What's wrong with this picture?TJeanloz
Jan 14, 2003 9:09 AM
The frame is not as new as the black decals indicate that it might be. In fact, the black decal is not correct for a Classic of any age. Note that the bike has downtube shifter bosses (the cable housing extends all the way to the downtube boss, instead of ending at the headtube). It also doesn't have the extended headtube that Litespeed introduced for 2000. Also, there apparently isn't a seatpost collar clamp- rather a brazed on bolt. I don't think the frame could be any newer than 1998, and quite possibly older.
And that means....Niwot
Jan 14, 2003 11:11 AM
... if you're going to buy a used bike on eBay, or elsewhere on the internet, communicate with the seller first and ask many questions. For a Litespeed, and many other models, the frame has a serial number. Before you agree to buy, get the serial number from the seller, e-mail it to Litespeed, and they'll confirm the model year and frame size for you. If it doesn't exactly match what the seller told you, then don't buy.
it's used,Leroy
Jan 14, 2003 11:58 AM
and this transaction is like contracting for a mail-order bride. You really don't know what you're getting.
Another warning bell is that payments are only accepted by checkPdxMark
Jan 14, 2003 1:16 PM
Isn't there protection in using a credit card/Paypal combo?

I could be wrong, but if you pay by credit card and the seller doesn't deliver what he was supposed to, you can dispute the charge through your card issuer. By going through a reputable third party, like Paypal, your credit card info is reasonably safe and secure (rather than sending the credit card info to some random e-bay seller), and you still have the dispute option through your credit card issuer. (This does not apply to debit cards, I think.)

If I have this right, the requirement to pay by check is yet another warning.
You can always complain to Ebay, but that's about it......ATLien
Jan 14, 2003 1:57 PM
How to protect yourself when paying by checkNiwot
Jan 14, 2003 3:21 PM
1. Before sending anything, talk to the seller on the phone, chat him or her up a bit, make sure he or she seems genuine to you and nothing seems fishy. You might want to talk to them on the phone more than once, and exchange a few e-mails, whatever it takes to assure yourself that this person is on the level and they're not going to dupe you.

2. Get the seller's home address for sending the check. Make sure it's a home address. Try doing some independent verification (over the internet, perhaps) to determine if this is the seller's home address. Again, if anything seems fishy -- like the seller said it was a home address, but it's really a Mail Boxes Etc. post office box or a business address -- don't send a check.

3. Send the check by certified mail, return receipt, and use the requirement that the envelope must be signed for by the person to whom you are sending the check -- no one else can sign for them. Ask the seller to call you to confirm that they have received the check and that they have sent the item to you.