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People say Armstrong only races the TDF's what he has won/placed(15 posts)

People say Armstrong only races the TDF's what he has won/placedTig
Jan 13, 2003 10:01 AM
For all those with short memories. This is only a list of top 10 placings, not races completed. Yes, his seasons are getting shorter each year. I can't blame him considering how difficult pro racing is in recent years. Even Eddy said he wouldn't have been able to win as much if racing was as competitive then as it is now.

Criterium International: 2nd
Amstel Gold: 4th
Midi Libre: 1st
Dauphine: 1st
Tour De France: 1st

Amstel Gold, Netherlands: 2nd
Tour of Switzerland: GC Winner
The Tour de France: GC Winner - Stage Winner: #10 Alpe d'Huez, #12 Mountain TT #18 Individual TT

Gran Premio Miguel Indurain, Spain: 7th
Paris-Camembert, France: 2nd
Classique des Alpes, France: 3rd
Dauphine Libere, France: 3rd, won mountain jersey
GP Kanton Aargau/GP Gippingen, Switzerland: 4th
Tour de France: GC Winner - won stage 19 TT; 6th, King of the Mountains
GP Eddy Merckx, Belgium: 1st (teamed with teammate Viatcheslav Ekimov)
GP Des Nations, France: first
Olympic Games, Sydney, Australia: 3rd - Bronze medal, Individual Time Trial; 13th, road race

Circuit de la Sarthe, France: 1st Stage 4 Time Trial
Vuelta a Aragon: 7th in GC
Amstel Gold, Netherlands: 2nd
Ride for the Roses Criterium, Austin, TX: 2nd
Dauphine Libre, France: 1st Prologue TT, 2nd Stage 7, 8th GC
Route du Sud, Spain: 4th Stage 1b Time Trial, 1st Stage 4
Tour deFrance: GC Winner - Stage Winner: Prologue Time Trial, #8 Time Trial, #9 atop Sestriere, #19 Time Trial, GC Leader - Stages 1, 8-20
Boxmeer Criterium, Holland: 1st
King of the Rockies MTB Series, Winter Park, CO: 2nd
Chevy Trucks National MTB Championship Series, Mount Snow, VT: 4th short-track cross-country; 6th cross-country

World Championships Road Race: 4th
World Championships Time Trial: 4th
22 Stage Tour of Spain: 4th
Tour of Holland: 4th
Cascade Classic: 1st
Rheinland Pfalz Rundfahrt: 1st
Sprint 56K Criterium, Austin, TX: 1st
First Union Invitational: 2nd
Tour of Luxembourg: 1st

Tour DuPont: 1st
Fleche Wallone: 1st
Liege-Bastogne-Liege: 2nd

Tour DuPont: 1st
Winner, stage of Tour de France
Classica San Sebastian: 1st

Tour DuPont: 2nd
Thrift Drug Classic: 1st
Liege-Bastogne-Liege: 2nd

$1 million Thrift Drug Triple Crown: 1st
Tour DuPont: 2nd
Winner, stage in Tour de France
U.S. National Road Race Championship: 1st
World Championships: 1st

First Union Grand Prix: 1st
Thrift Drug Classic: 1st
Championship of Zurich: 2nd

Not exactly a shabby career. Even Cipo has to admire it!
Quite impressive.Thanks for the info....PEDDLEFOOT
Jan 13, 2003 10:11 AM
... it seems he does more than just wait around all year until the TDF.Of course I think most of us already new that.Well done.
here's a more detailed list for 2002 (top 10 finishes )cdale02
Jan 13, 2003 11:41 AM
this shows all stages and other smaller races for 2002. I pulled this from

Lance Armstrong 2002:

Criterium International GC 2nd 31-mar-2002
Criterium International 2 7th 31-mar-2002
Criterium International 3 3rd 31-mar-2002
Amstel Gold Race 4th 28-apr-2002
Midi Libre 3 2nd 24-may-2002
Midi Libre 4 3rd 25-may-2002
Midi Libre GC 1st 26-may-2002
Midi Libre 5 4th 26-may-2002
Dauphine Libere Prologue 5th 09-jun-2002
Dauphine Libere 2 7th 11-jun-2002
Dauphine Libere 3 2nd 12-jun-2002
Dauphine Libere 6 1st 15-jun-2002
Dauphine Libere GC 1st 16-jun-2002
Tour de France Proloog 1st 06-jul-2002
Tour de France 9 2nd 15-jul-2002
Tour de France 11 1st 18-jul-2002
Tour de France 12 1st 19-jul-2002
Tour de France 14 3rd 21-jul-2002
Tour de France 15 9th 23-jul-2002
Tour de France 16 3rd 24-jul-2002
Tour de France 19 1st 27-jul-2002
Tour de France GC 1st 28-jul-2002
Profronde van Stiphout 1st 30-jul-2002
City-Nacht Rhede 1st 02-aug-2002
Karlsruhe Versicherungs GP 8th 03-aug-2002
Meisterschaft von Zürich 3rd 18-aug-2002
GP Eddy Merckx 5th 25-aug-2002
2nd San Francisco GP 6th 15-sep-2002
There's even moreNo_sprint
Jan 13, 2003 12:05 PM
Dirty Duathlon - 1st place
here's a good site for more statsDougSloan
Jan 13, 2003 12:31 PM
nice links thanks. nmSintesio
Jan 13, 2003 2:17 PM
An interesting statistic would be...TJeanloz
Jan 13, 2003 2:01 PM
I'd be interested in knowing the number of days that somebody has raced. It seems foolish to say that a Grand Tour is one race, and a Classic is one race; clearly one involves more racing than the other. It seems more reasonable to measure the stages of the Tour as individual races. All the pros I know use this as a measure, and most seem to be in the 80-90 days of racing per year range. This would also take into account a sprinter who walks away from a Grand Tour.
Jan 13, 2003 2:22 PM
"Minutes above AT of racing" would really tell you something. A mountain day in the Tour can't really compare to a flat 100 mile cruise with a 20 second sprint.

Jan 13, 2003 5:17 PM
...we could see the criticism leveled at Armstrong in a more 'European' light. That would let us understand how many cyclingfans outside the US feel about the mighty Texan.
Armstrong's domination of the Tour has taken away the image of the Merckxian hard man, the guy who could go from March to October and win all the big races.
Purists are dreamers and unfortunately, those days are over. The designated hitters are here to stay...
Where is the Giro or classic races?spookyload
Jan 13, 2003 7:42 PM
Since 1999 he hasn't bothered with anything that isn't Tour related, or post tour publicity. People all want to say he is the greatest, but to compare him to EM he needs to race the schedule he did. He didn't just pop out of seclussion in mid-May and start racing for a couple months. He was the greatest year round.
Don't have to go back that far...Wayne
Jan 14, 2003 6:54 AM
Bernard Hinault was the last true all-arounder and really is the only guy to bridge the gap between everybody else and Merckx. And the guy thought Paris-Roubaix was stupid, so he went and rode it, won it and never did it again, that's badass.
Armstrong really has two careers, a pretty good pre-cancer classics record, although not in the league of a Bartoli or Museeuw, then his post-cancer "Tour is the only thing that counts" career. Currently, I think the best comparison would be to Indurain, except even Indurain did the Giro/Tour double (as did Pantani). Armstrong will probably go down in history as the greatest TdF specialist.
2 words: Rainbow Jersey+Im sure if LA hadnt gotten sick....I_See_Fred_People
Jan 13, 2003 7:50 PM
..he would have won more than a few Classic Races by now.

He's smart, and as he said, in the USA, there is only 1 bike race that means anything...and thats the TdF.

I did read in CS that since LbL and Amstel have switched dates, that they think LA may go for a win a LbL. I hope.

I also hope GH can win the Ronde or Paris/Roubaix this year. Time is fleeting.
I never said he just raced the Tour... he only PEAKS thenPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jan 13, 2003 10:11 PM
You have to really be careful how you read/interpret peoples comments. Its obvious Lance races at other times in the year... its obvious he does very well as he's gearing up and even sometimes winding down from the Tour but the key thing is that he has one objective a year; to win the Tour. Because of that he races but doesn't race in peak form or full out at other races. Then again you have to give him a lot ofcredit for being able to win races in his non-peak form!

Being consistently on-peak form,TJeanloz
Jan 14, 2003 6:54 AM
Anybody who is on peak form more than two, maybe three times per year, is, in my opinion, highly suspect for use of performance enhancing substances. The human body is simply not naturally capable of a "peak plateau" that lasts the entire cycling season. In fact, many of the people who have had dominating seasons later admitted to drug use. It just isn't feasible to be on top of your game all season long.
I'm just bringing out his record to expose his other accomplishmentsTig
Jan 14, 2003 9:21 AM
I never suggested or implied that any one person here says LA races only the tour. However, many people believe that to be true and I'm addressing that general group, as well as others who are interested in his overall career. I wanted to bring to light his total accomplishments as a reminder that the guy can do more than the TDF, and does. I wasn't even thinking of your post as a target. Our words don't always show our intentions in a forum like this.

I agree that his focus is the TDF only. The preceding races he wins and places in are just preparation for his peak. He admits this as well. I really do wish he would race a more traditional schedule, but I can't blame him for appeasing his sponsors and going for only the TDF. He runs the risk of injury that could cancel his TDF plans when he supports his team in the spring races. After winning the TDF, the guy must really be exhausted!

Biologically, time is running out soon, and I think he will end his racing career in 2 years no matter what happens. Unlike many pro's who have a growing family that pulls their heart and motivation away from racing, Lance has the determination and drive to somehow keep on racing. He is sacrificing many irreplaceable moments with his kids to win the TDF 2 more times, and he'll be ready to spend more time with them ASAP. He knows the price he pays in the meantime.