|Dura V Ultegra||JetSpeed|
Jan 13, 2003 7:54 AM
|O.K., O.K., I know this topic has probably been beat to death, but I'm new to this forum and need some more expirenced advice on Dura Ace V Ultrgra for road bikes. I ride appx. 100-125 miles a week and consider myself a strong/hard rider. Is it worth it to go to Dura Ace? Exactly what are the differences/benifits? Thanks!!|
|Neither, go with Record 10. (nm)||onespeed|
Jan 13, 2003 7:56 AM
|re: Dura V Ultegra||geeker|
Jan 13, 2003 8:11 AM
|No general recommendation, but I think the Ultegra bottom bracket is actually better than the D-A, which doesn't have a very good seal and seems to require frequent maintenance if you ride in poor weather. If you ride a triple crankset, I've heard complaints about the D-A triple, which is apparently tricky to set up; Ultegra might be more hassle-free.
I personally would go with Ultegra, because the small weight difference and better finish isn't worth the extra $ to me. Maybe D-A hubs if I was having wheels built. YMMV, however.
|I Love the DA bottom bracket||Uncle Tim|
Jan 13, 2003 10:49 AM
|About 6 months ago, I bought a DA bottom bracket very cheap from an on-line internet vendor, fully aware of comments like the ones above saying that it was too difficult to service.
Just this past weekend, I removed the DA bottom bracket - really just to check it out - as I had no problems with it.
After thousands of miles in all kinds of conditions, the DA BB was in nearly pristine condition. Those two little rubber/plastic gaskets may not look like much, but they certainly kept water out of there.
I would say that if you can install an Ultegra BB, you can install a DA BB. The only difference is that you need to make the final adjustment on the bearings which is pretty easy, really.
If you go with an Ultegra BB, you are going to keep replacing them every 4K, 5K, 6K miles, whatever.
If you get a DA BB, and remove it and service it every 6 months, you won't have to buy another one for a very long time.
|I Love the DA bottom bracket||bugleboy|
Jan 13, 2003 2:06 PM
|If you replacing a an ultegra BB every 6k miles you are playing with it too much. Just install and leave it alone. If it starts to creak then remove it to grease the threads. It will last longer than 6000 miles.|
|My experience...||Uncle Tim|
Jan 13, 2003 9:08 PM
|I seen lots of Ultegra bottom brackets in action. I know of one guy who has every bit of 15,000 miles on this BB, which came originally on his bike. I'm concerned that when he does go to change it out, it will be absolutely frozen to the frame.
I have also seen Ultegra bottom brackets wear out prematurely. I had one that I replaced at somewhere around 3,600 miles and another that was shot at about 4,000 miles. And I am not talking about some mysterious creaking around the the BB; I am talking about grinding and clicking bearings.
I currently have an Ultegra BB in one of my bikes and I've lost count of the mileage. I'm thinking that it's up to about 7,500 miles and still performing quietly and well.
It makes sense that if you can get in there and service it, it becomes less of a gamble. That's a huge advantage for the DA BB. My observations tell me that if you get 8,000 trouble free miles out of an Ultegra BB, you are doing well.
A DA bottom bracket, serviced every six months or so, could last tens of thousands of miles.
|re: Dura V Ultegra||bent_spoke|
Jan 13, 2003 8:35 AM
|DA shifts better than Ultegra, so upgrading the shifters & rear dur maybe worth it if you have the $. As an upgrade it's not the most cost effective propostion, unless the parts are worn. I wanted to see for myself, so last year I upgraded & noticed a difference.
I was able to sell the Ultegra stuff on E-bay. However, I could have been more organized, but I was new & didn't know what to expect. I learned that the DA cable housing is silver & not black, which I didn't like (also, cable end adjusters are not standard). Since, I'd already sold the Ultegra stuff, I couldn't use the old cables as guide for cutting things, but now I'm "experienced".
|re: Dura V Ultegra||bsdc|
Jan 13, 2003 9:12 AM
|I recommend going all Ultegra with Dura-Ace STI levers. That is the one piece where you will feel the difference. DA levers have a shorter, crisper lever action that is really nice. Other than that, I think DA just saves a tiny bit of weight.|
Jan 13, 2003 11:22 AM
|I have a bike with an Ultegra triple drivetrain (actually for sale on eBay right now), and another with a Dura Ace double. They both work great, and I'm not sure I can tell a difference in shift quality.
If you have the money, and you're someone that will always wish that you'd bought the best, go Dura Ace. If you want to save a bit of cash, and don't need to have the bragging rights associated with the lightest bike on your block, go Ultegra. Either way you'll be happy.
|The DA brakes are flexy||chazman|
Jan 13, 2003 7:00 PM
|Are the Ultegra just as bad? Just wondering.|
Jan 14, 2003 6:15 AM
|Explain to me how a brake can be "flexy". That's possibily the silliest thing I've heard lately. I assume the Campy ones that you obviously own are really "stiff".|
|re: Dura V Ultegra||JetSpeed|
Jan 14, 2003 5:51 AM
|Someone said Record 10, what's the cost difference betwen Dura and Record 10 then? Moreover, WHY Record over Dura or Ultegra? I haven't ruled out Campy.|| |