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Jan 13, 2003 7:46 AM
|Ms. M does 19,500 miles. There's a guy on roadbikerider.com that says he did 26000 miles. How do you do it? I get out in some bad weather(not in the dark) and get in about 2000 miles between the road bike and the mtb and people I know think I'm obsessed. In order to get in those kind of miles you'd have to be on the bike 3-4hours a day. Everyday. Do you have jobs? Kids? Houses? I always thought those kind of miles were put in by pros not everyday joe's. I love riding, but I can't imagine having and then putting that kind of time into it. I'm curious, what kind of lifestyle choices are being made to accomplish these herculean feats?|
|For us it is age.||MB1|
Jan 13, 2003 8:03 AM
|We are both in our 50's with no children. When we were younger starting out in life and business we were far too busy and had far too many obligations to ride as much as we do now. Now that we are established it is pretty easy to ride when we want.
We don't enjoy TV, we both like the outdoors.
Washington DC traffic is so bad that commuting and shopping by bicycle makes more sense to us than driving.
We live in a place where it is possible to ride outdoors all year long.
We both realize that we can't do this forever, we might as well do it now while we still have our health.
If it gets old we will stop doing it.
|Commuting is the first step...||biknben|
Jan 13, 2003 8:31 AM
|This past year I started commuting to work. I did the 27 mile round trip 2-4 times a week. I ended up doubling my mileage from the previous year. It wasn't 20 grand but it made a huge difference.
For me it actually allowed more time for other stuff. In years past I'd rush home to squeeze in a ride during the week. Now, my riding is done and I'm home for dinner with the family.
Another big step for me was riding after dark. Although I've only commuted after dark so far. I've gotten used to it and wouldn't mind doing a training ride.
Jan 13, 2003 11:34 AM
|I do 50-75 miles a week commuting. This is in addition to (not instead of) the riding I'd normally do anyway. I was no where near 20k of riding time either, but it does add up.
Also, MTB riding does not do nearly as much for adding to a mileage total that road biking does. I spent six consecutive days MTBing in Moab this past fall, and managed to ride about 120 miles (3-4 hours on the bike per day). I can easily do that many miles in a weekend on my road bike without thinking about it.
Jan 13, 2003 1:14 PM
|25mi drive in traffic plus parking and 15min walk take as much time as riding bike so you don't really loose time, more like save it. Still 26,000 would be hard unless you're a bike messenger and/or ride 2 centuries a weekend.|
|where do they live?||bugleboy|
Jan 13, 2003 2:12 PM
|You also have to factor in whether they live someplace that you can ride year around. That can make a huge difference also. Here in Nebraska, we ride when the weather permits. This winter has been really good to us so far. 2 years ago it seemed that we had 8 inches of snow on the ground from Oct-March.|
|Full year is a given @ 26,000/year isn't it ?||Scot_Gore|
Jan 13, 2003 2:41 PM
|26,000/365=71 miles per day
71 mile per day at 18MPH = 4 hours a day in the saddle
70% of a year = 255 days
26,0000/255=100 miles per day (rounded)
100 miles per day at 18MPH = 5.5 hours a day saddle.
4 hours a day seems hard, miss a day, you need 5 hours a day for the next 4 to get it back.
With only 70% of year, if you miss a couple of days, it's pretty hard to get the miles back and still eat and sleep.
26,000 a year has got to be a cross country rider who leads trips for a living, don't ya think?
My two cents
|27,218 miles: here's how I did it eleven years ago...||lonefrontranger|
Jan 13, 2003 3:45 PM
|I did 27,218 miles in 1991. I was 23 years old, no kids, no car and a serious need to prove myself as an ultramarathoner.
My hours really helped. I worked as a bartender (8 PM to 2AM roughly) and commuted 44 miles round-trip by bike to work. Got home at about 4AM every morning, slept 6-7 hours and got on the road again at about noon to ride another 5-6 hours. I rode in every sort of weather. I lived like a monk. I set the women's record for our local 12-hour ultra that year (213 miles), and rode in 50 organized centuries. I was absolutely convinced I was going to be the next Seana Hogan. In reality, by mid-November I was burned out like a July 5th firecracker. I kept riding out of a sense of "duty", but all the joy had gone out of it for me.
In January of '92, I was approached by someone from the local racing team. They'd seen my numbers in a local TT and wanted more women on their racing team. I was leery of getting in over my head again and asked how much commitment I'd have to put in, and they said "oh, for women's racing you will do fine training 8 hours a week". I thought these guys were crazy! 8 hours of training a week?!! ONLY 8 hours?? I couldn't believe how easy that sounded (ha, ha!). Spent my next 3 or 4 months getting spit off the back of the race team rides, and I've been hooked on road racing ever since.
|Thanks, it is always nice to know that there is someone out there who is||MB1|
Jan 13, 2003 5:03 PM
|crazier than you are.
BTW I mean this in a good way. That is a LOT! of miles.
Jan 14, 2003 7:35 AM
|the girl who works as a bartender, drives minivan, rides 27,000 a year and wants to be next Seana Hogan.. give me a break! 8-P|
|Full year is a given @ 26,000/year isn't it ?||lonebikeroftheapocalypse|
Jan 14, 2003 5:57 AM
|It's not only the time commitment, there's also parts. Without getting into details I figure someone riding that number of miles has got to be into about $800 to $1200 in parts if they don't break anything. Most people don't spend that much on their whole bike. Kudos to those that can do it. |
I also read MB1's ride post. Kind of nice to see that someone who rides so much has a 30x34 low gear. I just ordered a Rivendell Atlantis with a 26X28 low and I was feeling like kind of a wimp for going with so low a gear.
|Why the Alantis instead of the Ramboulet.||MB1|
Jan 14, 2003 6:14 AM
|I've got my eye on a Ramboulet. What made you choose the Alantis?
Re:Low gears. I started riding on a used 8 speed bicycle (2 chainrings, 4 cogs on the freewheel (OMG in 1969)). Now I am up to 27 gears-giving me lots of justification for the low gearing while still having way too many high gears. It is nice to know that if a road or trail it is rideable I can do it.
|Similar Soul Searching Going on for me....||Scot_Gore|
Jan 14, 2003 6:45 AM
|Why the Alantis instead of the Ramboulet?
Why the Ramboulet instead of the Waterford T14?
I'm looking for a distance touring bike, with load carrying capabilities. I started looking hard at the Ramboulet, but have recently been leaning to the T14. I'd be interested in your ideas and lusts.
|I have a Gunnar-my brother-in-law has a Waterford.||MB1|
Jan 14, 2003 7:16 AM
|On one of the rides I led this year a rider showed up on a Ramboulet and another on an Atlantis. They are all beautiful frames but the Ramboulet costs a whole lot less than the Waterford.
The Atlantis in my size has 26" wheels and isn't really set up for STI although you can make it work. So I am thinking if I got a second tier Rivendell it would be the Ramboulet.
Since I am really hard on frames and don't take really good care of the finish I figure I might as well get the one that costs less.
The other option is to get a Rivendell like Miss M has.
Choices, choices, choices.
|Your mileage may vary ?||Scot_Gore|
Jan 14, 2003 7:46 AM
|Isn't a Ramboulet around $2250 (frame and fork) and the Waterford T-19 is $1299 plus some add ons for braze ons and paint that I think are included by Riv to bring it in around $1900 or so (depending what you want).
Your understanding is apprarently different.
|No that is the price for the custom Rivendell.||MB1|
Jan 14, 2003 8:00 AM
|Ramboulet and Atlantis $990 with fork.
|Thanks, I get it now (nm)||Scot_Gore|
Jan 14, 2003 8:06 AM
|I have a Gunnar-my brother-in-law has a Waterford.||lonebikeroftheapocalypse|
Jan 14, 2003 7:50 AM
|I just squeeked into a 58cm Atlantis with 700c wheels. I also went with full on friction DT shifters. |
If I had to got with 26"wheels I probably would have went for the Rambouillet.
|Just buy the RIV Custom.....Lifetime frame!||Len J|
Jan 9, 2003 8:44 AM
|Are you over analyzing this?
At 13,000 miles a year (assuming you do 4,000 on the fixie)the difference works out to 5 cents per mile if the frame only lasts you 2 years, if it lasts you 4 yrs, it's 2 1/2 cents/mile. If anyone gets their money out of this type of investment it would be you. Just framesave the frame once a year & touch-up the paint occasionally.
How come you could spend the money on a Riv Custom for Miss M & not on you? You know you want one.........
|Fit is not an issue for me so I don't need custom.||MB1|
Jan 14, 2003 12:25 PM
|I know enough about how I ride and how I gradually wreck frames that I figure "Why buy the custom when I could get 3 really good frames for the price of 1 custom?"|
|Similar Soul Searching Going on for me....||lonebikeroftheapocalypse|
Jan 14, 2003 7:39 AM
|Well lets see. This is going to sound stupid but at least part of the reason for the Atlantis instead of Rambouillet is styling. I just liked the way it looks better. I already have a full on dedicated MTB and a racing bike(don't race it though) and wanted something inbetween. The original idea was to save my pennies and get a full custom Riv but at the rate I was saving I would be 80 before I would take delivery. |
If I'm not mistaken, the T14 is a relatively new addition to the Waterford lineup. A few months before I placed my order for the Atlantis, Waterford came out with a RS bike that had tons of options and a rather steep price tag. I made inquiries to the company as to wether they would be coming out with a more "budget" model. They said no. They felt that the people interested in this type of bike were the type of people that were more interested in options than getting a "bargin". Since I placed my order with Riv things seem to have changed at Waterford. Just bad timing really, that and my local Waterford dealer is really into racing, which I'm not.
|800 to 1200$? how?||cyclopathic|
Jan 14, 2003 7:44 AM
|just curious how did you arrive to this #. a few chains, 2 bottles of lube, set of brake pads, am I missing something?|
|800 to 1200$? how?||lonebikeroftheapocalypse|
Jan 14, 2003 8:06 AM
|Tires. A set lasts me about 2k. 26/2=13x$50/pr=$650. Chains. One lasts me about 1.5k. 26/1.5x$15=$260. |
We're arleady up to $810. How about a new saddle? Long distance people probably like a good saddle every now and then. Let say $100 for a good Brooks. Bar tape, lube, a new cassette, tubes, brake pads. They all add up. I don't ride these kind of distances so I'm sure I'm missing something.
|That's some really expensive tires and tubes ;-) nm.||MB1|
Jan 14, 2003 8:06 AM
|That's some really expensive tires and tubes ;-) nm.||lonebikeroftheapocalypse|
Jan 14, 2003 8:14 AM
|Oh, never mind. |
Thanks everyone for chipping in.
Jan 13, 2003 4:30 PM
|I only wish I had the dedication and determination to do that much riding. I put in approx, 3800 miles last year. All solo. No one around here to ride with. The ones I have come across on the road are to fast or to caught up into being faster than me...which is not too tough. Wish I had the option to ride with others for the pure fun of putting on some miles and enjoying a day in the sun. Cannot communte to wrk b/c of the need to travel for work. Anyways, thats my story. Have a nice day.|
Jan 14, 2003 3:32 AM
|Some of you are amazing.
When you start talking about 19k or more miles it's a world
that I'd have to forgo work to achieve.
I did just under 1200 miles last year and I'm trying for
2000+ this year.
I'm a married homeowner with a pretty demanding IT job, but
at the same time I try and budget riding when I can.
But more than 10k? Just blows my mind. I love riding and
try to keep the "fun" in it but I could see me being a
pretty cranky customer if I tried to do 27k.
Jan 15, 2003 10:50 AM
|Although I am nowhere in the same league as MB1 and others, I rode just over 7,000 miles in both 2001 and 2002 without much disruption of my other life. That works out to nearly 20/day, 150/week or 600/month. I don't bicycle commute because of the bad traffic and lack of paths where I live, and because I have to drop my daughter off at school. Here's how I get my mileage in: |
-- I start with a goal of riding at least 5 days a week. If the weather is nice, I nearly always ride figuring I need to "make hay while the sun shines."
--I generally don't ride in the rain/sleet/snow. When the weather is bad, I often go to spin cycle classes at the YMCA. I convert my spin time to miles at the rate of 16 mph, which is a conservative estimate of my usual speed. (Although others disagree with counting spin or roller miles, it's how I do it and my numbers are only for my own benefit. I know from the way I sweat and soreness afterwards that I am getting just as much exercise if not more in most spin classes.) Total spin "miles" for the year is less than 1000.
-- During the winter months, finding daylight hours to ride is the biggest challenge. I manage to ride about 2-3 days outdoors during the work week by bringing my bike to work and riding at lunch, riding in the dark after work with a lighting system on neighborhood streets with little traffic, and taking a hour or two off work on particularly nice afternoons (using comp time).
-- I average about 20 miles on weekday rides, and 30-60 miles on weekend rides. I often get another 20 miles out of group rides by riding from my house to the park where I meet my friends. So, a 35-mile group ride becomes a 55-miler for me, and it only takes me about 20-30 minutes longer than if I drove my truck.
-- I have participated in 3 cross-state bike tours over the past two years in Ohio, Wisconsin and North Carolina. On two of those tours, my total mileage for the week was over 400, and the other was over 300.
-- I try to take my bike with me on trips, business-related and vacations. That's not always possible, but it's great when it works out. For example, I've taken my bike on beach trips the past two years and rode nearly every day 20-35 miles by the time everyone else is just getting up.
-- I live in the South (NC), so riding year-round is not a problem. It is a rare day when the high temperatures do not reach at least the low 40s. With a minimal amount of gear, it is comfortable (for me) riding in temperatures down to freezing. So, I've been able to log 550-600 miles even during Dec-Feb., unless I get sick.
My biggest problem with riding so much is recovery time. It is very hilly where I live so it's hard to do recovery rides where you just take it easy. So periodically my legs just get worn out and I have to schedule an off week where my mileage varies from 60-100. A lot of my friends ride much fewer miles than me and their legs seem much fresher on group rides, particular on hills. I notice a big improvement in my performance when I'm forced to take a few days off due to weather, travel, etc., but I generally ride for fitness and weight control moreso than speed (and I don't race).