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Cross training: running tradmill with >7 degree incline(13 posts)

Cross training: running tradmill with >7 degree inclinerrodrigz
Jan 9, 2003 11:04 AM
Does it help? A triathlete friend says it focuses on the quads and helped his biking. I tried it a couple of times, got sore quads alright, but I wonder if its worth it.
Are you a runner or a cycliststr8dum1
Jan 9, 2003 11:07 AM
if you are a runner then by all means, use the treadmill. If you are a cyclist, ride your bike. Running does not translate to cycling.
You sure about that???biknben
Jan 9, 2003 11:19 AM
I would disagree about running not translating to cycling. Did you read the post about distance running the other day. There were a few more people that would disagree.

I'm currently running 15-20 miles per week and it certainly benefits my cycling.
he's not sure, hes wrongsctri
Jan 9, 2003 1:55 PM
Its call cross training. And it works.

Plain and simple, arobically, and otherwise you can make fitness gains with running.

Not to mention, if you are doing things that are producing lactic acid, like hill work (7%), and training yourself to deal with it, that seems like it would be benifitial as well... (i dont have any data to back that up, but it makes sense)

Lastly, running if nothing else, can be a nice recovery on days off to loosen up

RC
No offence but thats BAD ADVICEPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jan 9, 2003 2:38 PM
S: Before I begin I would like to say this isn't a flame and I completely understand where your coming from in saying ride to ride... not run.

Anyway to my post. If you want to get in shape you obviously need to ride your bike. But low intensity workouts such as running, swimming, going on the elliptical trainer work well BETWEEN hard intensity cycling sessions. It is the whole idea of cross training. But at the same time you want these workouts to be low intensity... running on an incline of 7% will make you go anaerobic in no time which between cycling workouts of any significant duration/intensity will suck the life right out of you. In turn this will make you slower faster than it'll make you faster.

Now if you wanted to do one higher intensity running workout once a week with 2 shorter easy spins the day before and the day after then that would be fine. The only thing about that is your in the gym anyway so why not get off the treadmill and just go do some leg work? That'll really get your legs burning.

Nick
PodiumBound.ca
re: Cross training: running tradmill with >7 degree inclinePEDDLEFOOT
Jan 9, 2003 11:48 AM
Be carefull how often you run on that percetage of an incline.You can develope a nasty case of achillies tendonitis by continually running with a large incline.It happened to me at its not alot of fun.It also takes awhile to go away.I would limit it to no more than once a week.

It is a good way of getting a good cardio training session in and it will strengthen the legs.Just be careful not to overdo it.
1 degree = realitymass_biker
Jan 9, 2003 12:05 PM
I heard someone say that because of the absence of wind resistance etc. on a treadmill, setting the incline at 1% essentially mimics outside conditions.

I incorporate running into my winter training regime, with 3-4 efforts of 3+ miles a week interspersed with weights, rollers, and time on the bike (weather permitting).

It is also a very effective way to stay fit if you travel (easy to bring your gear: sneakers).

No need to set speed records on the treadmill - use it in conjunction with cycling-specific weight lifting and other exercise to keep some semblance of form.

MB
realityjim gravity
Jan 9, 2003 12:22 PM
The number two or three reason I run is 'cause it's so easy to do when you're faced with the reality of travel.

Number's one and two are because I like it and that there's less winter bike maintenance to go along with it.

Even "in season" run a few times a month on a rest day, so that if I'm away I can crank out a few one hour runs with less risk of injury.
realityJon Billheimer
Jan 9, 2003 1:22 PM
When I've had down time due to bike maintenance I've tried 30 to 45 min brisk walking sessions on my treadmill, starting at a 4% grade and progressively increasing to 10%. I kept the intensity high enough to maintain anywhere from a 70 to 88% heart rate. Among other things, I noticed that this works well for strengthening the lower leg which doesn't get a lot of work in the pedal stroke.
True, here's a link from Trinewbies on treadmill incline. . .js5280
Jan 9, 2003 3:46 PM
1% generally compensates for the lack of wind resistance. As you go up in incline your equivalent pace per mile also goes up. Don't have anything though on how the mechanics of running steep inclines may effect you. Some ways I think it would be positive because you have less foot strikes but greater effort. However, like a mashing a big gear up hill, there's a point where it's taking it's toll.

Article:

http://www.trinewbies.com/2RunTreadArt.htm

Chart-Equivalent Pace-per-Mile on Various Incline Settings on the Treadmill:

http://www.trinewbies.com/2RunTreadChart.htm
great links, thanks! nmJS Haiku Shop
Jan 10, 2003 6:59 AM
I prefer power-walking at inclines to 15% ...Humma Hah
Jan 9, 2003 2:23 PM
... but I'm a notorious masher.

I figure I get plenty of cycling exercise. If I'm in the gym, its to work on what cycling misses. I can be in shape to ride 150 miles or climb a mile vertically, but then go for a hike with my wife and hiking downhill can cripple me for a couple of DAYS.
I guess it boils down to goals....str8dum1
Jan 10, 2003 6:51 AM
you guys can run while i do bike specific workouts. racing starts in a month and big NRC stuff in under 2 months. Way to close to even be thinking of cross training. Maybe back in october, running would be ok.

And 2nd, you guys are talking about aerobic fitness. If his quads are the 1st thing to go (burning) then hes not getting the aerobic benefit. He might as well lift weights or better yet do muscle tensions on the bike. I bet you find any cat1/pro guys out doing stuff like that now. I know you guys think Friel is a god, what does he say? I bethe pushes on the bike workouts.