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EBAY ? (semi-cycling related)(18 posts)

EBAY ? (semi-cycling related)lampshade
Jan 9, 2003 8:23 AM
Tuesday evening I won my first ever EBAY auction. It was for a bike, with me to pay an undisclosed amount for shippong on top of my bid (so I do not know the total $ yet). It is now Thursday around noon and I still have not heard from the seller. I have tried to contact him/her through the "contact seller" function of Ebay and at their email address provided on Ebay. The seller has had over 300 sales with very little negative feedback, and had 4 other auctions ending at the same time as mine. I was really psyched to win this auction. What should I do next? How long should I wait before I give up? I was under the impression that sellers were usually really on top of things once their auction ended. Any advice from seasoned Ebayers would be appreciated. Thanks.
Jan 9, 2003 8:39 AM
First off, did you email the seller your address and preferred method of shipment? If so then as long as you've complied with their sale requirements they may be taking care of business, packing up the bike, weighing it, and getting the shipping quote. Some sellers also manage to schedule a vacation right when something sells, or else they have a family emergency and have to go out of town for a few days.

Did the auction ad state anything about how long it would take for them to get back to you? I sold a bicycle on ebay, larger frame, and had to go round up a larger bicycle box that was also within the maximum UPS dimensions (wound up with a narrow/tall box by cutting and taping two boxes together).

Post the auction number so the more curious of us can see what you bought, and can maybe then offer some more suggestions.

yeah, yeah - more important whatdjaget!!!lonefrontranger
Jan 9, 2003 8:48 AM
Heck with the seller, he'll figure it out. Post a pic from the auction so's we can see what you won! Daggone man, where are your priorities.
Jan 9, 2003 10:37 AM
He may want to wait till he contacts the seller before letting us know what he got. We'll tell him how cool, awesome, etc. it is and it will be that much more frustrating if the seller backs out. :-)

In my limited experience on E-bay, the seller is just as anxious to get his money as you are to get the item. Strange that he's not responding.
Jan 9, 2003 11:08 AM
The seller contacted me while I was at lunch, about 30mins after my origional post. Everything is on track. Here is a link to the auction (may have to cut and paste). It's nothing special, just an older Nishiki made into a fixie for commuting and erands and such. I have never really ridden a fixed gear and was toying with the idea of getting a Pista, but figured that this would be an inexpensive ($81) way to try one out. I think it will be a nice change on my 2.5 mile flat commute.
Jan 9, 2003 12:01 PM
That is a sweet bike. I saw it while browsing Ebay yesterday. I think you will be very happy with it. I have a Centurian with a simular conversion.

Mike Y.
additional EBAY ?lampshade
Jan 9, 2003 12:19 PM
According to this reply, do I send the guy a money order for Bid + Boxing + Shipping, or do I pay the UPS guy the shipping when he shows up at my office? I can't really understand. In the auction it only said, "buyer to pay actual shipping". What is the standard EBAY protcol?

Seller's Reply:
Please send final bid amount plus $35 for Professional Boxing. For shipping rates go to with this information (Residential Pick Up, Your Packaging, One Time Pick Up, Weight 24 pounds, Dimensions 46x8x26) Also please send a print out, of the bike that you won along with your name and address, so I know which one to ship and where to ship.
additional EBAY ?Mike-Wisc
Jan 9, 2003 12:33 PM
Just follow his recommended steps. Sounds like he wants you to do the shipping calculations. He may get a business discount on his end. Go to the web site, plug in the information he gave you for a quote based on his and your addresses, print out the results from that quote, make a copy of everything you send him for your own records, then send him the winning bid price, plus the $35 boxing fee, and the UPS amount you came up with.

The $35 boxing fee is probably just an easy way to reduce the hassle factor for him and ends up costing you a little more, but you still got a nice bike at a decent price.

You should be able to choose your delivery options when you get the quote on the UPS site. Also, when I've bought things on E-Bay I usually get one of those Express Mail envelopes at the post office to send the payment and other documentation to the seller. Really stands out in a mailbox, and helps save a day or more of waiting.
additional EBAY ?Alpedhuez55
Jan 9, 2003 12:43 PM
I shipped a bike I sold on Ebay from Boston to Texas this fall and it was in the $30-40 range. Ground would be the way to go. Consider insuring the bike as well. It should not cost too much.

I think the boxing fee is excessive myself. I did my own boxing with a box pulled from the gargabe of a local shop. It took all of 20 minutes. He is probably just taking it to a local shop to have them do it. He did let you know about it up front at least. I am sure you will love the bike though.

Mike Y.
Thanks all, the $ order is in the mail (nm)lampshade
Jan 9, 2003 12:55 PM
sounds oversized......Alexx
Jan 9, 2003 1:20 PM
If he removes the wheels (like he is supposed to do when shipping a bike), the longest dimension shouldn't be over 40". I'll bet he sticks the thing in a box AS IS, and socks you for about $50 extra for being oversized. Tell him how you want it boxed-if he's charging you $35, he owes it to you.
I think he's okayMike-Wisc
Jan 9, 2003 1:31 PM
His given dimensions are 48"x8"x26" = 82", just under the oversize limit.
From the UPS site:
A package is considered "Oversize 1" (OS1) when all of the following conditions apply:

The package's combined length and girth exceeds 84 inches.
The package's combined length and girth is equal to or less than 108 inches.
The package's actual weight is less than 30 pounds.
Complete bikes are normally boxedStraightblock
Jan 9, 2003 2:00 PM
with the front wheel, bar & stem, seat/seatpost and pedals off. The rear wheel is in the frame. His dimensions are OK.

I do think the $35 packaging charge is excessive, though. I'd bet this same seller does a lot of these SS conversions and just uses the packaging as a profit center. Someone besides the LBS and UPS is making money from it, for sure.
charges for boxingDougSloan
Jan 9, 2003 2:08 PM
My LBS will box and ship for about $10; but, I'm sort of a "power user" customer.

charges for boxinglampshade
Jan 9, 2003 2:22 PM
I thought the $35 was a bit excessive, but in the seller's feedback several positives mention how well the bike was packed. Maybe his shop is really, really good at putting bikes in boxes. If I get a rideable bike in OK condition, I will be happy.
I wouldn't be surprised if the seller worked for the LBSStraightblock
Jan 9, 2003 2:50 PM
or was even the owner. He'd have his pick of used bikes & trade-ins, and a decent mechanic with tools & parts at hand could do a basic single-speed conversion on a lunch hour. And $35 might be what a one-time walk-in customer (not a power buyer like Doug) would pay to have a bike boxed.

Regardless, he's not getting rich buying, converting and re-selling the bikes for <$100. As long as the buyers are aware of the packaging charge before they bid, there's no harm. As a former wrench at a LBS myself, I don't blame the shop for trying to make money from the internet, anyway.
$35 sounds typical for shipping/boxingMike-Wisc
Jan 10, 2003 6:17 AM
I used to hang out on a triathlon site and a lot of the people there said their LBS's would box and ship a bike for around that price plus the UPS charge. Basically it worked out to a minimum shop labor charge for the hassle factor.

Bottom line, as long as it's stated up front in the auction (like it was) and as long as the buyer seems happy with the deal (like he is) then that's all that really matters. When I'm buying something on E-Bay I factor in all the shipping/handling charges and then decide if the total price including my postage fees ($3.50 Priority Mail and money order fees) are worth it for the item in question. Sometimes an item isn't worth one penny after all the charges and hassles are factored in. But in this case it seems like a nice bike for the buyer. YMMV.
I put a max inDougSloan
Jan 10, 2003 12:24 PM
I put in my ads (for example) something like "shipping at actually cost not to exceed $50". I think that's fair.

A charge of $35 for boxing and shipping is fair. For boxing alone, probably a little high.

As you say, as long as it's disclosed, though, it's fair.