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Frame too small?(10 posts)

Frame too small?Roger H
Jan 7, 2003 10:11 PM
I have a DeRosa Planet. Always felt a tad large. It was a 60cm frame(approx 58 ctc). I bought a used Look 381 size 57 ctc thinking it maybe would fit better. The reach is fine but the photo shows what I had to do to achieve a 21/2 inch drop to the bars. Looks kinda dumb, doesn't it? I think I bought a frame too small. Maybe a 59 would have been better? I
looks okay to meyeah right
Jan 7, 2003 10:22 PM
with the exception of the bar tape, but that's another story.

threadless headsets, especially the hidden ones are going to need spacers, and a slightly rising stem doesn't hurt, as long as the setup is still stiff enough.

maybe the geometry isn't perfect for you, but if you went to a larger look, the stem length would be pretty short.
looks okay to meRoger H
Jan 8, 2003 6:25 AM
Well, the next size up (58) has the same top tube length and the 59 TT is only 5mm longer. I just don't know if there is something else to consider. Thanks for the reply.
re: Frame too small?bugleboy
Jan 7, 2003 10:34 PM
If that is where it feels comfortable then its fine. You should see a close up for Larant Jalebert's(sp?) bike. There is a goo picture in the custom clothing for castelli. He has quite a few spacers. I almost want to say about 2 inches worth. It's kind of hard to tell in the picture.
re: Frame too small?Spunout
Jan 8, 2003 4:29 AM
I find alot of Ergo handlebars place the levers too low. If you tilted the bars up a bit, used non-ergos (like Deda 215 Shallow) you would have higher levers and get rid of the spacers. The position in the drops might be about the same.

I will switch to Deda 215 Deep drop, adjust them so they are horizontal at the top. I think this works better with Campy levers though, they like to be high on the bar.
OK by me ...tarwheel
Jan 8, 2003 5:16 AM
I think the time has come where cyclists just need to get used to riser stems and spacers. With the threadless forks/stems being put on virtually all new bikes, the only way to raise your handlebars to a reasonable height is to go with a setup like you've got. Unless you can tolerate a large seat-handlebar drop, it's about the only option (unless you have a custom frame built with an extended head set). Anyway, I've made peace with riser stems and actually kind of like the appearance now, particularly on certain frames. Your setup looks fine to me, even the bar tape.
re: Frame too small?DINOSAUR
Jan 8, 2003 8:59 AM
Judge your fit on what feels good and not what looks good. Been there, done that. If this setup works for you then there is no problem...
Looks finejtolleson
Jan 8, 2003 9:56 AM
A zero stem gives you a bit of that riser look and it is fairly common, no harm. And you've got a relatively short stem too, so a 59 might have given you a reach issue. If this fits, then ride and enjoy.
Another thing to consider ...sacheson
Jan 8, 2003 2:22 PM
I notice you have a Cinelli Solido stem, correct? If so, the stack height on those is pretty low, I think in the 32 - 33mm range. If you go into a Deda Magic or Newton, you're looking closer to 37 - 40 mm and a Thomson might give you 42 mm or so. Basically, you can remove some spacers by purchasing a stem that takes up more steerer tube. It *might* increase the stiffness a little, but you don't have excessive spacers on it now.

As for the inverted rise, did you ever see Christophe Moreau's bike in the 2000 or 2001 TdF (can't remember exactly)? He had a Specialized S-Works compact with an inverted 140 mm jobbie. That was dumb. Yours is not.
re: Frame too small?crosscut
Jan 8, 2003 8:06 PM
This is the geekiest setup I've ever seen. Look at all those spacers! Hurts my eyes. You need a new bike, right now. You'll have trouble getting rid of this piece of trash. The garbage man will laugh at you and leave it on the curb. Tell you what. I'll take it off your hands for you. I'm doing you a big favor. I don't know what I'll do with it. Probably turn it into yard art, or something. I'll email you my address.