Jan 7, 2003 5:02 PM
|I'm looking for a training/fun bike that I want to keep for a long time. I am going to get C'dale for racing, but I want a more comfortable bike for training. I'd also like it to be somewhat unique. I am looking at some of the Look frames. The 381i looks really nice but I have heard it doesn't ride as well as the other looks. Which Look frame is the best for ride quality? What about Colnago, DeRosa, or Pinarello? I work at a shop so I can get the frames for good prices but I don't want to spend too much regardless. Any other brands that I'm forgetting? The shop sells Treks too so I guess an OCLV is an option but they are really common. I also favor a slightly shorter TT with respect to ST.
What about components? I was thinking DA, but what are some reliable bars, stem, etc.
Jan 7, 2003 7:14 PM
|Can't go wrong with a Colnago. Shortish TT for the size, which works for me. My MasterLight is definitely a "lifetime" bike although it holds its own in races and other times when it counts. I would also say that you would not go wrong with a DeRosa or a Pinarello (the DeRosa Neo Primato has to be one of the nicest steel bikes ever).
I have my MXL built up with DA and it does what it has to do - shift when I ask it to. As for bars and stems, my recommendation is NOT to go stupid light for stems - that is one place where the downside of saving weight far exceeds any potential upside.
|re: Training/Lifetime/Fun Bike||lonebikeroftheapocalypse|
Jan 8, 2003 11:36 AM
|Maybe I'm nuts but did you say you wanted to race a c'dale and beat the hell out of a colnago w/DA that you're going to pick up cheap? OY! Good luck. Why not try a Waterford 1100 w/105 or ultegra. You could probably get in under 2g's and it would definitely be smooth. Judging by the bikes people talk about on this sight it would be fairly rare as well. Go for that pimpy goldfinger color.|
|Lifetime fun bike?||Spoke Wrench|
Jan 9, 2003 7:31 AM
|When I first got into the bike business, a friend advised me not to go overboard buying myself the ultimate bike because there will always be something newer and better coming down the line.
The most significant trend that I've noted has been that dropouts have gradually been getting wider. Mountain bikes today usually have 135mm dropouts. Tandem dropouts today are usually 145mm or even 160mm. If a significantly different dropout standard is adopted for road bikes, that will present a barrier in the future to upgrading those frames. Personally, I'm betting on narrower dropouts coming back, but not for several years because we need a technology breakthrough first.
My ideas on bike fit have evolved over the years too. I have a 10 year old Bridgestone frame that I LOVED when it was new. On it's last rebuild, it got a Techtronic long quil stem to raise the handlebars so that my knees won't hit my belly when I'm in the drops. My newer bikes all have larger frames.
Who can say what bicycles will be like 10 or 15 years from now? The only thing I am sure of is that they will, indeed evolve and most people will equate that evolution with improvement. I've never owned a bicycle frame that didn't last longer than I wanted it to. I don't really want a "lifetime" bike because I can't wait to see what the future holds for us.