|Endurox-does it really work?||katie1|
Jan 7, 2003 3:53 AM
|According to them, this product reduces soreness and helps muscles recover faster after exercise. Is this true? How does it taste?|
|re: I hated the taste and texture.||dzrider|
Jan 7, 2003 5:10 AM
|I found it grainy and unpleasant enough that I didn't want to drink it. Lately I've been drinking Ultima, which doesn't taste all that great either, eating Hammer Gel and Endurolyte Caps. It's hard for me to evaluate muscle sorenes and recovery time because there are so many variables beside the energy drink. I also believe that our perceptions of pain, stomach problems and recovery time are mental as well as physical so I take stuff until I have a bad experience like nausea or cramps and then look for something else.|
|I noticed no difference...||biknben|
Jan 7, 2003 5:52 AM
|I bought a big jug of it to give it a try. I didn't enjoy the taste. It was like grainy, flavored milk. I used it as recommended until it was gone and never noticed any benefit. Having said that, I believe it does work to some degree but I can't spend another $40 a month on nutrition products. I'm giving all I have to Cytomax, Gu, and Cliffbar at the moment.
I can spend money elsewhere and get noticeable results.
|I noticed no difference...||african|
Jan 7, 2003 6:12 AM
|I am spending my money with ben and jerrys, I have got big results!|
Jan 7, 2003 8:38 AM
|re: Endurox-does it really work?||Sintesi|
Jan 7, 2003 5:57 AM
|I think most nutritionists would say that it works no better than a lot of other products out there including just eating a balanced diet. I don't think there is any real proof that this product works as advertised.
My experience is that after hard days there seems to be some benefit in the muscle fatigue/achinesss dept. I use it after long days in the saddle on the weekends but that's it. It's too expensive. I don't know if it really is working or if I am just thinking it works but I figure what the hell? You need something after a work out anyway and all those vitamins can't hurt. So give it a shot.
|re: Endurox-does it really work?||african|
Jan 7, 2003 6:10 AM
|I did not like the taste but with adding a bit of gatorade I managed to make it a bit nicer on the palate. I don't know if it works, maybe if it tasted nicer I would find out. I have friends that use it all the time and say it works wonders, is this all in the mind??|
Jan 7, 2003 6:16 AM
|I have read two of Ed Burke's (he is the nutrionist behind the development of the product) book (Optimal Muscle Recovery). There is solid research behind Endurox, however from reading his book I gleaned the most useful advice: Eat something high in carbohydrates within 30 minutes of exercise to maximize recovery. Ideally what you each should be 3 parts carbohydrate and 1 part protien, but nearly anything will do.
If you do this, you will have accoplished well over 95% of what Endurox does for you, however if it isn't convenient (post race?) to jump into eating some food, this product may be handy. Don't expect it to do a miracle for you though.
|Endurox is an expensive convenience food (nm)||Jon Billheimer|
Jan 7, 2003 8:34 AM
|re: Endurox-does it really work?||Galibier|
Jan 7, 2003 6:20 AM
|It works for me, in the sense that I feel like I recover faster (more energy) if I drink Endurox after a hard ride. I agree the taste is not that great, and at first it gave me cramps, but eventually I developed a tolerance for it. It's the only sports food/drink I still buy -- I make my own "energy bars" (PB&J) and mix my own sports drink.|
|I Highly recommend it....||CARBON110|
Jan 7, 2003 6:30 AM
|I use it after weight workouts and bike workouts and I enjoy the Lemon Lime only. The tang/orange and whatever the other is are gross. Adding gatorade well mak a big difference too. I found it makes me recover faster period. My legs actually felt better after usng it and I often use it on long 4 + hour rides in my water. I never bonk when I do this and its alot easier then eating in a race. However, you cant rely soley on t and it is expensive... I pend $80 on 2 bottles every month which far more then I want to but I use it. Now..... how about Optygen? Thinking about trying that out, but its $50 a bottle. That means between my gym membership, cliff bars and gu as well as Endorux...hmmm and the 1 and.... well its about $200 I spend a month to eat and ride my bike. Of course I bike 6 days a week and cliff bars are a midnight snack as well as a on the bike snack. I could aso speend $200 just taking my girlfriend and some friends out for one dinner and a movie these days... umm yes the large pop corn and a coke... say what, how much? O $45!|
|tastes like @ss!! but...||_rt_|
Jan 7, 2003 6:30 AM
|i've found that it works pretty well for recovery. i also like it during long morning rides since i rarely eat breakfast (or long rides at any time of the day). it's like having a meal in a bottle.
the lime flavor is the least offensive, IMO. and it is a bit more palatable when it's cold.
Jan 7, 2003 6:36 AM
|if you weigh under 150 lbs (which i know you do) you do NOT want to use 2 scoops/water bottle. i use only 1 rounded scoop/bottle. it works fine, tastes a tiny bit less horrendous, and doesn't make me want to yak.
Jan 7, 2003 7:05 AM
|When are you doing these secret training long morning rides?!? He! He! :)|
Jan 7, 2003 11:53 AM
|at one time in my life i did long morning rides.
no, i swear.
|Su---re you did!||katie1|
Jan 7, 2003 12:56 PM
|Just kidding. You know I believe you...really!|
|How it works depends on timing.||Turtleherder|
Jan 7, 2003 6:34 AM
|I have used it and believe that it works, but it depends on when you use it. It seems to be most effective at relieving soreness and muscle fatigue if you chug a bottle within twenty minutes of a hard work out. At least for me it makes my legs feel better if taken within this time frame. As for the taste, the first time I tried it I did not think I could drink it without gagging. I have since learned that if you mix it with Crystal Light lemonade instead of straight water that it actually drinkable. The tartness of the lemonade cuts the chalkiness of the protien powder.|
|I used to use it...||Gregory Taylor|
Jan 7, 2003 6:56 AM
|The taste is nothing great (I could stand the orange -- the "Fruit Punch" was DEADLY), and it did seem to work. I was less sore after a hard ride, and was ready to go the next day.
I stopped using it because I could get the same result by eating carbs and protein after I ride.
I was also a little concerned about one of the ingredients - Cijwa (spelling?) root. My very simplistic understanding is that this stuff basically supresses your heart rate during exercise. I'm not wild about tweaking with the mechanism that regulates my heartrate.
|I couldn't get past the taste||ColnagoFE|
Jan 7, 2003 7:14 AM
|bad stuff. and gave me stomach cramps later. i'll take a pass on it.|
|It works, but isn't unique||Ray Sachs|
Jan 7, 2003 8:00 AM
|As others have said, it is a good post-workout recovery drink, but you can get pretty much the same benefit from other stuff, as long as you get a mess of carbs and enough protien to help the carbs absorb (or whatever role it plays). I tend to go through about two large jars of Endurox a summer. I don't mess with it after every ride, but I use it when I'm doing hard rides back to back and I ALWAYS take it when I do a tour in the summer. At the end of a long day of touring it can take a while to scare up some real food, so I take along portion sized baggies of Endurox and chug a bottle of that each day after the ride before I set up camp, shower, etc. Then I go looking for some real food as soon as I can after the chores are done.
But I do notice a difference the next day when I use it. Not miracle powder, but good stuff.
|I think I notice a difference. Which is, after all, everything||bill|
Jan 7, 2003 8:50 AM
|you could hope for, isn't it? Who knows whether it really makes a difference, but if you think so, hey, who's going to argue with you?
I agree with Jon Billheimer -- expensive convenience food. But you could do worse.
|Never used Endurox, but we have racers who ....||pa rider|
Jan 7, 2003 8:28 AM
|swear by using Extran for 24 hour races. I use cytomax during the ride and some Gu's or hammer gel.
I have to agree with other posters that their can't be any special sport drink to help you that a proper diet could give the same effects. I'm still working on that myself to figure out a good recovery program.
We took some protein mix during a 12 hour mtb race (over 96 degree weather) and it worked better than the cytomax or gatorade. At one point we just eat pasta and stay with water, because with the weather everybody was just getting blotted up. We had two racer dehydrate by drinking the cytomax and stopped drinking because their stomach was cramping too much.
That's why I wouldn't use the endurox mix because it can cramp you up big time. It takes a good while for your stomach to digest that stuff, why suffer with cramps until you decide the stuffs not for you.
I usually elevate my legs to help flush the lactic acid right after the ride. I found that works better for me with a good meal, than any recovery drink.
Just my 2 cents.
|Thanks! Which flavor is most tolerable?||katie1|
Jan 7, 2003 8:36 AM
|I was thinking of trying it, using it after hard rides only. I am kind of picky with what works during rides.
I take it this stuff taste like sh*t. Most seem to agree lemon/lime is the best, right?
|lemon-lime for me. I kind of like the stuff. Which may be a||bill|
Jan 7, 2003 8:46 AM
|yes, you are a sick man, but lime is the least offensive||_rt_|
Jan 7, 2003 11:58 AM
|noone actually likes endurox!! ;-P
just my $0.02
|Thanks! Which flavor is most tolerable?||Skip|
Jan 7, 2003 1:23 PM
|I actually like the taste of Endurox & Accelerade tangy orange (1 scoop each in a glass of water), that I drink it after work outs, riding, long yard work, and even just while watching TV.|
|cytomax is the best, imho. find a drink that works for you||wheelsucker|
Jan 7, 2003 9:19 AM
|endurox and accelerade gave me stomach aches during rides, cytomax works for me. just have to find a drink that works for you.|
Jan 7, 2003 11:14 AM
|... eat/drink "real" food as soon as you can after a ride. Within 15 minutes if you can. I used to be real lazy with this, as I would typically have an hours drive from ride to kitchen, and would invariably feel wiped the next day.
Last year I tried, at the suggestion of an elite MTB friend, 1 Boost-type drink, 1 banana, and a PB&J sandwich before turning the ignition. If you make this your only readily available option you reduce the temptation to wolf down Doritos and beer (heh, can any of us say we haven't done it?).
Buying a small food cooler helps this plan in a big way and lets you add in other travelling snacks as well. Seedless grapes work for me, a chicken sub for big rides.
|I use it||Manicmtbr|
Jan 7, 2003 1:07 PM
|I use it, I think it does make a difference. It makes back to back hard workouts more tolerable. It also seems to wake me up after morning training and helps me face the office. It is an expensive convenience, but it works for me.
Definately better cold and I like the taste as well. Lemon Lime or Orange. Fruit Punch tastes like Pennicillan (SP?).
It is on sale at Performance until February 1st for $29.99 for the large jub (56 servings I think). I guess shipping would be expensive - - I have a strore within 45 minutes so I do not know.
Jan 7, 2003 1:25 PM
|used Endurox throughout the tri season last year, after each workout and race. I did not notice any effects, frankly. The theory is convincing: but you can get a high-carbohydrate drink with plenty of protein in chocolate milk, which tastes way better too.|
|katie1 this is the secret||Rubiks_Manuever|
Jan 7, 2003 11:13 PM
|Immediately after a race or a long ride mix two scoops of endurox in a twenty-four ounce container of Miller Lite. It replenishes your carbos, relaxes you and rebuilds your muscles. Trust me, it works. Then do the Lance Armstrong stretches, eat pasta and take a hot bath. Then begin slowly ingesting the rest of the twelve pack and get on road bike review and read stuff and respond until the beer and cigarettes run out...then go to sleep. I tell ya, the next day you will feel like conquering the road. Additionally, ignore the developing beer belly and persistent lung hacking--they are merely distractions from true road riding sincerity. This infallible training program got me a sub-six hour time in the Hilly Hellacious Hundred Century Ride in Asheville, as well as a fantastic time in the Bridge to Bridge as well as the Blood, Sweat and Gears. I also insist on getting really bent before each race and watching lots of tv until about two hours before race time. The hangover goes away at mile 42 each time without fail. Accelerade, Harvest Bars, Endurox, and Camel Turkish Jade Light cigarettes have gotten me through countless centuries.
|katie1 this is the secret||katie1|
Jan 8, 2003 6:07 AM
|That is so funny!!!! If I ever decide to pick up drinking, I'll keep that in mind. He! He! I could only imagine how crappy you would feel after all thatn.|| |