Jan 6, 2003 1:52 PM
|I am looking to build up a new bike. I called a frame builder and asked if they could build my bike up with Campy. They said they were getting away from Campy but I could call a local bike shop and they could build it up for me with Campy. I called the local bike shop and they said they were getting away from Campy as well. They said the Campy USA went bankrupt. The were quick to say that Camagnolo in Italy was strong and referred me to another shop that might be able to help me. I'm left with the feeling that Campy parts are going to be hard to come by in the near future. I'm sure things will iron themselve out before too long. Is there any merit to this rumor? Are there any potential problems with getting Campy?|
Jan 6, 2003 3:09 PM
|this sounds like a wierd rumor, and Campyonly has nothing about that one. in fact, that sounds like an urban legend. just get your Campy from an online retailer and have the bike store build it. in fact, get the tools and build it yourself; I don't know if I'd trust your bike store after this. I assure you, it's easy to set up.
www.txcyclesport.com and www.glorycycles.com have pretty good prices. I've dealt with the latter, and they're good.
Jan 6, 2003 5:02 PM
|Crock of stuff. A Google on Campagnolo USA shows nothing. These BS artists are giving you a load so they can stick with their normal suppliers AND because they have no experience with Campy and so don't want to work with it. A group of true professionals (NOT!). Find somewhere else to do business. This reminds me of a story a friend got last summer when looking for a bike: "We don't put Campy on that frame because it was designed for Shimano and Campy won't work well." Total BS to avoid doing something with which they were not familiar.|
|re: Campy USA||mackgoo|
Jan 6, 2003 5:49 PM
|Buba it's all true. Be safe go Shimano, you DESERVE it.|
|Please pardon my post.||bsdc|
Jan 6, 2003 6:45 PM
|I was obviously led astray by the forces of evil. I don't know how I could have even reasonably considered such blasphemous remarks. And even worse ... I posted them here. I should be whipped by the frayed ends of some cheap Shimano cables. May Tullio forgive me!|
|bsdc...in all fairness to you||PaulCL|
Jan 7, 2003 6:24 AM
|CampyUSA is a pain in the a** to deal with. I've had reason to contact them several times. They NEVER return phone calls, there is never anyone available to talk to. You can always leave a message for a catalogue. If you aren't a dealer, they won't talk. Yesterday, the customer service rep at Col. Cyclist even told me that they are a pain to deal with - almost impossible to contact. So, I can see why such a rumor started.
But their products...magnifico! So cut these Italian boys a little slack. I just assume they are all out on their Record-equipped C-40's spinning around the mountains.
P.S. But...if you ever blaspheme Tullio's company again, we'll have to sic Big Guido and his brother on you!
|please blame U.S. distributors, not the parent companies||lonefrontranger|
Jan 7, 2003 7:25 AM
|So okay, you've all heard my rants about Trialtir. I encountered the same lack of quality service and indifference with CampyUSA when I worked in the shop.
Lemme break it to you from someone who has seen a fair bit of the industry's dark side. These guys aren't in it to promote the product. Historically, the more difficult Campag parts are to get, the more demand there is for them in the U.S., and the higher they can jack the prices. There is a long tradition of price controlling Italian cycling goods imported to the U.S., mainly because the market will stand for this, since Italian has always held a certain cachet (I pay more for it, therefore it must be good).
Mike at Maestro-UK wrote a fun rant about this on the price list page of his site. Our U.S. distributors are in the business to control prices, not to sell product competitively. They've been able to get away with this up until now because Americans are so desperate to get their hands on Record cranksets, Meraks and C-40s. The parent companies do not condone the price controlling, but according to what I was told by a product manager at Interbike, it is very difficult and expensive for them to get the import licenses and establish distributors here, so they have the frustration of either battling with greedy distributors or just not being able to sell their product in the U.S., which is a very lucrative market.
Only recently have Internet sales offered any way around this, and I think it's high time these guys were forced into a fair open market. Unless you have a great LBS you are determined to support, you can save yourself a lot of cash (even factoring in shipping) by buying from European suppliers. I was recently quoted significantly less than 1K shipped from the U.K. for the Record kit I plan to put on my new frame. That's a retail price. Retail in the U.S. for the same kit runs about $1600, and even on employee discount or pro team deals I'd still spend more than I would to ship it from England.
Sure this takes away the instant gratification factor, and I won't buy things I'm not certain of (clothing) sight unseen, but it's a good way to save a lot of unnecessary cash and often hassle.