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According to some, frame material is not the biggest factor(4 posts)

According to some, frame material is not the biggest factorFez
Jan 6, 2003 12:20 PM
in producing a comfortable ride. The manipulation of the tubes and geometry are cited as bigger factors in affecting ride. This comes up all the time in the Steel vs. Al vs. Ti vs. Carbon discussions.

So, what all-aluminum-framed (no carbon rear), carbon-forked bike setup is real comfortable for a 160lb cyclist? Include details such as frame, fork, wheelset and tires.

And how much does that frame weigh? And how would you rate its stiffness (subjectively)?
My experience seems to agree...HillRepeater
Jan 6, 2003 1:14 PM
I recently moved from an Oryx Racing 2200 to a Bianchi SL Lite Alloy - both aluminum, double butted frames. Both running carbon forks. Both using the same saddle, seat post, wheelset, tires and pressure (I moved these parts from the old bike to the new). The ride difference between the two frames is substantial - the Bianchi is much more muted over bad roads. I don't notice any flex in either frame. It's hard for me to call any road bike 'comfortable', but the Bianchi is noticably smoother than the Oryx. I don't know what causes that, but it's not the material they're made out of.

I'm ~160lbs and had a 58cm in the Oryx and a 57cm on the Bianchi.

I don't know about the weight of the Oryx, but I've read that the Binachi is somewhere in the 3.0 - 3.15lb range. The wheelset is 105 hubs laced 3x to Areoheat rims using 32 14/15 spokes. Tires are Kenda Koncepts run at 105 psi.
My $0.02Nessism
Jan 6, 2003 1:16 PM
Don't forget frame fit, this makes a huge difference in comfort.

Regarding bike ride compliance, my opinion is that the tires are most important followed by fork compliance and then frame/seat.

Only you can decide what fit is comfortable for you. Regarding a fork, the Easton EA70 and HSC1 and 2 are known to be a nice soft riding forks. I rode a Time Equipe fork for several years and found it quite compliant for my 165 lbs.

My vote goes for the frameset goes to the Supergo Easton Scandium job. Does have a carbon rear but this is no big deal. The tubes on this frame are actually quite small which should provide a nice smooth ride.

Ed
To add more confusion to it all...wasabekid
Jan 6, 2003 2:50 PM
the following variable combination/s will result in a different ride feel:

EQUIPMENT/Component:
Frame Mat'l (Stl, Al, Ti, Ca)
Geometry:
TT length, ST angle, wheelbase length, rear triangle shape
Fork Mat'l/geometry
Accessories (seat, bar, stem...)
Size
Weight

RIDER:
Weight
Physiology
Experience
Type of Rider:
Sprinter, TT'er, endurance, recreationalist

Any of several combinations will yeild a different feel to a certain rider. In other words, to obtain the magic "formula", put all of the above criteria in a hopper, do a mixing and then a shaking...and...VIOLA!!! = bike FIT AND TEST RIDE.

There are a lot of well intentioned opinions in this board but try not to forget whom the comment was from. A strong sprinter (large gear masher) vs. "fast" sprinter (spinner)
will give varying BB flex opinions, that an average mortal may not even be capable of such burst of speed.

Good Luck (with your quest!?!)

W.