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I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....(24 posts)

I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....SantaCruz
Jan 5, 2003 8:12 PM
today I saw a potbellied guy on a USPS Trek with USPS jersey and shorts who was riding with his two young children, one of whom still had training wheels.
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....The Human G-Nome
Jan 5, 2003 8:59 PM
i dunno, i'd say you missed the mark on this one. how is he "posing" when he's with his little kid on training wheels? a poser means you're trying to give everyone the impression that you're someone that you're not. that obviously wasn't the case here. just same dad out there playing fan. nothing wrong with that.
You should have ignored this one, too. (nm)mickey-mac
Jan 5, 2003 10:19 PM
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bringing kids into cycling, bravo!!Spunout
Jan 6, 2003 4:29 AM
Would you rather he brought them to a stock car race instead? Definitely pays off the poseur factor if you promote our activity.
My boys loved it when I went riding with them..dzrider
Jan 6, 2003 5:34 AM
Especially when I came home from riding myself. I'd often come home to find them dressed to go and waiting with their bikes. I guess I should have taken off my Lotto team jersey to avoid looking like a poseur, but what the hell. The real poseur was my 5 year old son who wore lycra shorts that hung to his knees because they made him feel like he was a real cyclist.
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....CFBlue
Jan 6, 2003 7:49 AM
About three weeks ago I was at the local farmers market making a purchase when a guy in full USPS regalia walks through the market, Trek bike with USPS paint, clicking cleats and all. I just rolled my eyes, but the fun part came when he was out of earshot. The non riding vendors had a field day. Didn't use the word poser, but called him a lot of other amusing things. They had some of the usual questions, like why dress in such a costume and walk through the market, making a spectacle of yourself. So, it isn't just other roadies that think such dress is, well, silly
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....The Human G-Nome
Jan 6, 2003 8:56 AM
honestly, so what if he's in the market in his cycling garb. is he suppose to derobe before he stops in for some supplies? one can debate the poser factor/merit of USPS jerseys all day long, but i don't understand folks who bash/let alone care at all about some guy in his cycling suit picking up some trail mix.

we've done this topic before, but americans are sooooo hypersensitive about looking "cool". they never want to be caught dead in the jersey of their favorite team. everything is earthtones, blacks and dark blues and browns. it's worse then a hippy parade. i'm certainly not partial to USPS gear, but i'll take it any day over the same dreary run-of-the-mill stuff i see out there every day. at least the person is showing enthusiasm.
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....AFrizzledFry
Jan 6, 2003 10:54 AM
>americans are sooooo hypersensitive about looking "cool".

and where are you from that condones such ignorant generalizations? why dont you take a long walk off a short cliff....?
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....The Human G-Nome
Jan 6, 2003 11:29 AM
and where do you live that you have such a short fuse? you can take an equally long walk off a short pier. let me expand my point so you're not so traumatized this time:

American cyclists, in general, prefer earthtones. they shy away from pro-gear and are always worried folks might think them a poser. this is not the case in europe. yes, this is a "generalization" (no kidding). do you find this not to be true? fine. but feel free not to tell me to go f myself nextime. k?
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....geeker
Jan 6, 2003 11:54 AM
"American cyclists, in general, prefer earthtones. they shy away from pro-gear and are always worried folks might think them a poser"

Semi-true in my case. I'd never wear pro gear or even gear with prominent logos, but have no preference for earth tones. I wear whatever solid-color stuff is cheap: currently black or red shorts, white, blue or red jerseys. Mostly because I find the pro kits too loud for my taste, though fear of looking like a poser is also involved. OTOH, I don't pay attention to what others wear, and don't pass any judgments.
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....The Human G-Nome
Jan 6, 2003 12:53 PM
well, if you're not passing judgement then it makes no difference of course. and if you think a cycling jersey is too loud, then you can't fault someone for having different taste. for me, my only criteria is attitude. a guy could be riding along side me with full USPS Postie garb down to the bike, booties, cap, gloves, socks, etc. with a jersey that has "hey, my name is Lance" imprinted on the sleeve and as long as he's a nice enough guy/girl with good cycling etiquette, i'm not going to care in the least. after all, even if he's "posing", he's not fooling anyone so who loses? certainly not yourself for having to put up with the spectacle. again, at the least i appreciate the enthusiasm. better that then someone who looks 100% serious all the time, has a bad attitude and rides around in all black on an all black bike thinking he's the lone wolf on the prarie.
LOL.... lone wolf on the prarieFrith
Jan 6, 2003 2:07 PM
Thats me: black bike, black clothes. Oh well to each their own... If I ever see a team kit that I like enough I'll wear it. But for the most part I'm not big on them.
now here my wolf call: hoooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
LOL.... lone wolf on the prarieThe Human G-Nome
Jan 6, 2003 3:39 PM
see, you're the kind of cyclist i like. not overly concerned about the fashion police, plus you have a sense of humor.
Lucky man53T
Jan 6, 2003 9:48 AM
I think that shopkeeper should be thankfull that another loud and opinionated ashole like himself (me) was not standing there. I'm sure I would have come down hard on his predjudiced, ignorant, intolerant, un-healthy, un-american attitude. Just for sport,of course.
I doubt they focused at all on the team kit . . .Look381i
Jan 6, 2003 10:44 AM
They would have laughed at any version of lycra and cycling shoes. I take it that you are careful not to wear any type of cycling duds in public?
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....TimePedal
Jan 6, 2003 7:56 AM
The funny thing about who is and isn't a poser is that I'm sure in the early 90's when Lemond was winning the tours, if anyone had worn the Team Z outfit complete with helmet (which I thought was pretty cool, lemond team Z air attack) gloves, etc, they'd be considered a total poser. You wear the Team Z outfit now the same cyclists think it's cool cuz its retro. Wait till Lance retires and next thing you know the USPS stuff will be cool to wear.
I never wear team kit, but man I'd buy one of them Team ZOldEdScott
Jan 6, 2003 8:55 AM
outfits in a heartbeat! Got that Marvel superhero thing going on.
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....dave_w
Jan 6, 2003 12:05 PM
Yup, I don't know why but I've always felt the best jersey is one from some defunct team. Cyclists appreciate the retro factor and drivers are still alerted by the obnoxious factor.
My request for private cycling reserve still pending....Scot_Gore
Jan 6, 2003 11:46 AM
....in the mean time, I'll be the fat guy in cycle lycra, possibly with child in tow.

See ya on the road.

Scot
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....Mariowannabe
Jan 6, 2003 12:03 PM
If this guy is a Poser, what is the guy who wears a Yankees jersey and sports a Martinez license plate bracket on his car. Why can't somebody just be a fan?!? I think its great, in fact I'm a bit jealous of the guy. I wish I could get my kids to where a Mapie jersey with me!

And give the guy's belly a break. At least he's riding.

Oh, and I proudly wear my cycling stuff to the farmer's market. Maybe not the supermarket, but its definitely OK at the farmer's market.
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....laffeaux
Jan 6, 2003 12:31 PM
I stop by the supermarket after rides all the time - one needs to eat. I generally through a pair of shorts on over my riding shorts, abd I wear MTB shoes which don't click so bad. However if someone things I'm a poser because I'm buying groceries in a bike jersey while shopping, then screw 'em. What do I care?
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....RobbDC
Jan 6, 2003 1:32 PM
i have a pair of USPS arm warmers that i bought for 10 bucks at a race. they are white and cool as shite.

wearing the whole kit is a bit much though. hey, that guy in the farmers market could have been floyd landis.
re: I usually ignore any posts about Posers, but....The Human G-Nome
Jan 6, 2003 3:43 PM
the "whole team kit" goes against my sense of fashion as well, but if i chose to be bothered by something like that i'd end up living my whole life in a constant state of bother.

"there is plenty to criticize. it gets so easy to narrow these eyes. but these eyes, will stay wide..."
- B.Schwarzenbach
Lack of Decency!indurain
Jan 6, 2003 3:48 PM
Why is it that so many people think that they have the right to critcize other people simply for what they are wearing or how they look. Whoever termed the phrase "poser" is very superficial. Why can't we live our own lives and not worry so much about people that may seem different from what we consider to be normal. I own some Mapei team gear, and some Tour de France jerseys. It is not to impress anyone. I like them. If someone else doesn't than they should have the decency to respect my right to wear what I like. I suggest that everyone who snickers at "potbellies in full USPS gear" should do the same.